Too many vehicles on uk roads

The only solution is a high quality public transport system. We need to have far more capacity on it than we need “now” so it makes its use pleasant even when busy.

Only then will die hard car drivers be persuaded to move.
 
You only have to look around 1970's/80's housing estates to see the problem. Certainly in the 70's many houses didn't actually have a single car, and most only one car. Very few had more than one car, and the estates were designed accordingly. Now a lot of these kinds of estates are jam packed with cars due to the exponential increase in both quantity and size of vehicles.
 
grunge said:
The only solution is a high quality public transport system. We need to have far more capacity on it than we need “now” so it makes its use pleasant even when busy.

Only then will die hard car drivers be persuaded to move.
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It's the level of integration too. If the end to end journey time on public transport is say 10-15mins more, then it's worth the trade off to ditch the hassle of having to drive but if it adds an extra 45+ mins to my end to end journey then the car it is.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
You only have to look around 1970's/80's housing estates to see the problem. Certainly in the 70's many houses didn't actually have a single car, and most only one car. Very few had more than one car, and the estates were designed accordingly. Now a lot of these kinds of estates are jam packed with cars due to the exponential increase in both quantity and size of vehicles.
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What do you mean?

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I can't see any difference.
 
The whole infrastructure of public transport locally & nationally has been underfunded and profit driven for shareholders to the extent it's not fit for purpose on the whole.

There are pockets which will be good, buses and trams around where I am on the coast seem pretty good, on the odd occasion I do catch a bus they're really nice LED information screens, clean pleather seats, frequent, on time etc.

Would I consider risking travelling from home to a night game on public transport? No chance....either a bus or tram then train the latter may/may not run either to Manchester or back...so I use the car as being stuck in Manchester isn't a risk I want to take.

Sort out the system and people will come but, it's a long long way from being sorted, a reasonable service and reliable.
 
Leeds is trying to make it nigh impossible to drive into the centre. A large block in the centre is now pedestrianised and thru routes go around the city. A raft of local stations now have expanded car parks and frequent trains. No idea about the busses.
 
Folk complained about the proposed congestion charge, but I think it's going to be the only way out of this mess, yes public transport is woefully shite, but look at most of the buses and they are rarely more than half full, yet the roads in Manchester are jammed from 5am until 8pm everyday.
 
KS55 said:
Leeds is trying to make it nigh impossible to drive into the centre. A large block in the centre is now pedestrianised and thru routes go around the city. A raft of local stations now have expanded car parks and frequent trains. No idea about the busses.
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Parking in Leeds has always been shite, but the roadworks there at the moment are a joke.

Getting to the M621 takes forever and when you get there it’s 40mph average speed zones.
 
KS55 said:
Leeds is trying to make it nigh impossible to drive into the centre. A large block in the centre is now pedestrianised and thru routes go around the city. A raft of local stations now have expanded car parks and frequent trains. No idea about the busses.
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I need to start coming over to Leeds. Was thinking of driving to a station. Are there any you can suggest?
 
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