Tories have lost the vote of the young generation.

How would ancient history at a cost of say 50 grand enrich me
Collective knowledge, education of future generations, skills involved in the field. I guess I'm not one of those people who justifies the space programme because it led to non-stick pans, but because we learned something about the universe.

I can't imagine we're going to convince each other on this one, so I'll leave it there. Decent debate though.
 
What utter bollocks. So we should only pay for things that directly benefit us? I've never used any of the following in the last decade:
The police
The fire brigade
The ambulance service
A hospital
But I'm very happy to have my wages taxed so that these services are universally available. And I'd happily pay for our youth to go to University. It won't directly benefit me. It will benefit them. Loving the Tories in full flap mode. Constantly shooting themselves in their self-righteous feet. What goes around comes around. Shower of self-serving wankers.

You're simply wrong. All the services you cite are at your disposal.

Perhaps you'd be happy to fund me on my round the world cruise? It won't benefit you directly, but it would be of great benefit to me, so feel free.
 
What utter bollocks. So we should only pay for things that directly benefit us? I've never used any of the following in the last decade:
The police
The fire brigade
The ambulance service
A hospital
But I'm very happy to have my wages taxed so that these services are universally available. And I'd happily pay for our youth to go to University. It won't directly benefit me. It will benefit them. Loving the Tories in full flap mode. Constantly shooting themselves in their self-righteous feet. What goes around comes around. Shower of self-serving wankers.

Tonight I may get burgled so I will call the police who will probably not turn up
I may fall asleep and set the house on fire
I may go into a coma listening to bluethfunthru
I may need to visit the hospital as the caring left balaclava wearing shit bag threw a brick at a posh Tory and hit me

I see this as insurance so will happily pay.

If however I am pondering which of king henrys many wives liked a bit of anal I will google it. I don't need a pot headed bearded twat from maccie d's to tell me at the cost of 50 grand. I'd rather the money went into social care or a million other things that would make life a little fairer.
 
I guess you're left with all knowledge is valuable (and it is) but some more than others. Can't we criticize courses, scrutinize social benefit, or lack thereof.. what are we playing at? We want to fund the kids that'll most likely help civilization, not acquire socially useless bollocks. It's a messy subject, but surely there are bullshit pursuits, and useful pursuits.
 
Collective knowledge, education of future generations, skills involved in the field. I guess I'm not one of those people who justifies the space programme because it led to non-stick pans, but because we learned something about the universe.

I can't imagine we're going to convince each other on this one, so I'll leave it there. Decent debate though.

You ever thought about 12 years in school, how much of that day in day out 8 hours a day you now use in your day to day life? I have worked with about 20 people over the years with degrees. In today's terms that's about 600 grand. They are/were doing the same job as me. Did they enrich my life? No. Did they enjoy uni? Some yes some no. In any world could that 600 grand be classed as value for money? Not a chance

Would I rather spend it on the disabled yes, would I rather spend those billions giving every kid who leaves school the chance to get a licence, take a training course absolutely, would I pay 50/50 for a nurse or doctor hell yes. Would I give it to someone who becomes a lawyer and earns a million quid a year? Fuck no he/she passes they pay it back then get the house in wilmslow with the m5,on the drive.
 
Tonight I may get burgled so I will call the police who will probably not turn up
I may fall asleep and set the house on fire
I may go into a coma listening to bluethfunthru
I may need to visit the hospital as the caring left balaclava wearing shit bag threw a brick at a posh Tory and hit me

I see this as insurance so will happily pay.

If however I am pondering which of king henrys many wives liked a bit of anal I will google it. I don't need a pot headed bearded twat from maccie d's to tell me at the cost of 50 grand. I'd rather the money went into social care or a million other things that would make life a little fairer.
I prefer your reply. :-)
 
Amazing isn't it.......there are people who think that its ok for us to train people for nothing (we pay them) in the Army to kill people but we force people into debt if they want to become doctors and nurses and actually save lives
 
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Amazing isn't it.......there are people who think that its ok for us to train people in the Army to kill people but we force people into debt if they want to become doctors and nurses and actually save lives

Being serious for a moment, there is an argument I think for varying levels of financial support, depending on what you what to study at university.

A degree in Physics? State pays £xyz amount to help you fund it. (Since there's such a dearth of good science teachers, for example).

A degree in "Harry Potter and the Age of Illusion" - Durham University? Fund it yourself, you twat.

https://www.dur.ac.uk/faculty.handbook/archive/module_description/?year=2010&module_code=EDUC2381

Aims
  • to place the phenomenon that is Harry Potter™ in its social, cultural and educational context and understand some of the reasons for its popularity;
  • to consider the relevance of Harry Potter to the education system in the twenty-first century;
  • to understand twenty-first century education in the light that the Harry Potter series, and other educational fiction, casts on it;
  • to make explicit connections between Harry Potter and citizenship education.
 
Being serious for a moment, there is an argument I think for varying levels of financial support, depending on what you what to study at university.

A degree in Physics? State pays £xyz amount to help you fund it. (Since there's such a dearth of good science teachers, for example).

A degree in "Harry Potter and the Age of Illusion" - Durham University? Fund it yourself, you twat.

https://www.dur.ac.uk/faculty.handbook/archive/module_description/?year=2010&module_code=EDUC2381

Aims
  • to place the phenomenon that is Harry Potter™ in its social, cultural and educational context and understand some of the reasons for its popularity;
  • to consider the relevance of Harry Potter to the education system in the twenty-first century;
  • to understand twenty-first century education in the light that the Harry Potter series, and other educational fiction, casts on it;
  • to make explicit connections between Harry Potter and citizenship education.

I can see logic in the state partly or fully funding education in areas where there is (or is likely soon to be) a need for trained staff in that field. That should only apply if the people that receive that training go on to work in a related field for a certain amount of time.
 
I can see logic in the state partly or fully funding education in areas where there is (or is likely soon to be) a need for trained staff in that field. That should only apply if the people that receive that training go on to work in a related field for a certain amount of time.

Should City ask for money back from apprentices that don't make it through the academy?

Education and training is an investment. Investments carry risk and reward.
 

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