Tories win Copeland b-election.

Media omit all mention of the boundary changes in 2010 that left the seat all but a marginal by including areas that always voted Tory.
 
Media omit all mention of the boundary changes in 2010 that left the seat all but a marginal by including areas that always voted Tory.
lol!

It's down to the Leader not boundary changes. Corbyn does not appeal to traditional Labour voters, he is exactly the sort of protest socialist that many of them despise. And as a previous poster mentioned, he was un till recently championed by everyone's favourite whinging twat, Owen Jones, which didn't help. Although I did note that earlier in the week he was on the daily politics suggesting a change of leadership was needed. Which is hilarious.
 
The problem for Labour is Corbyn, everyone, including the vast majority of Labour MP's knows this, but the
ludicrous £3 membership deal resulted in every far left fruit loop and spotty student leaping on the bandwagon
creating a 'Membership' in the hundreds of thousands. This, has now made it virtually impossible to remove him,
so a CND loving, Hamas embracing £500 billion borrowing 70's far left throwback finds himself ensconced and superglued
to the seat opposite Theresa May. Apparently, there was a 7% shift downwards, overall in both by elections,
they kept Stoke, but in marginals, which Stoke never was, they'll be hammered, and he'll be the leader of of a party
resembling the Lib Dems.
 
I fail to see what Corbyn does wrong - seems a man of honest principles, honest integrity, continually holds the Tories to account on the issues of NHS, privatisation of our services, put anti austerity on the National agenda, forced the Tories to reverse 4.5 billion of welfare cuts, massively increased the Labour Party membership - would Owen Smith, Harriot Harman etc really be a better opposition leader ? Who would have been ?
- people that say they want a stronger opposition leader ... what do they actual want ?
Fair to say, the country has leaned centre right and that's where we're comfortable, hence why you could argue Labour need someone like Tony Blair .. and who wants that ?!
Well clearly the electorate do. A lot of what Corbyn says makes sense to thinking people who believe there is an alternative to austerity. But he personally is unelectable. That's the problem. Politics today is as much about the messenger as the message, whether we think that's right or wrong.
 
A population/country that votes Tory deserves all that it gets!

Still the rich will be OK.
Good, I'd rather have what we get.
Bashing'The Rich' is a bit old hat by the way, Labour luvvies Bob Geldof and Lily Allen may object.
 
people that say they want a stronger opposition leader .
No you pillock. People want a stronger opposition. That's where the sentence ended. You added your own end to try and make a weak point.

Labout need someone that's electable and not communist-lite with the diplomatic finesse of a handgrenade.
 
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