Ducky_ said:Torres has never won a club trophy. Ever.
he might never
Ducky_ said:Torres has never won a club trophy. Ever.
auction294 said:I've not forgotten his or Reina's interviews. Whether they were miss quoted, or their quotes were taken out of context is irrelevant. Some basis of fact must have been contained and both of them were very critical of us.
As a player I would love to see somebody of his calibre playing for us, whether I want him at the club is another matter. We are now fortunate that we can look at Torres and say, we don't really need you.
To address the original question; Torres will never be a laughing stock, in fact his loyalty and ambition are probably seen as laudable by his peers. If he judges sucess by medals then he wont realise that at Liverpool in the short term but we shouldn't get complacent or even arrogant. Liverpool will again be a force to be reckoned with. It's not history, they have experience as a club. We mock them in jest, good old fashioned banter but we should never dismiss them as that would be what the scum have become self opinionated and arrogant of others.
A thoughtful comment. Even though clubs are our rivals we should respect them. I think Torres is trying to be loyal and I applaud him for that. I do think however he has shown tempermental problems that would make me question whether we should try to sign him in summer. I expect him to go to Spain or even Italy.auction294 said:I've not forgotten his or Reina's interviews. Whether they were miss quoted, or their quotes were taken out of context is irrelevant. Some basis of fact must have been contained and both of them were very critical of us.
As a player I would love to see somebody of his calibre playing for us, whether I want him at the club is another matter. We are now fortunate that we can look at Torres and say, we don't really need you.
To address the original question; Torres will never be a laughing stock, in fact his loyalty and ambition are probably seen as laudable by his peers. If he judges sucess by medals then he wont realise that at Liverpool in the short term but we shouldn't get complacent or even arrogant. Liverpool will again be a force to be reckoned with. It's not history, they have experience as a club. We mock them in jest, good old fashioned banter but we should never dismiss them as that would be what the scum have become self opinionated and arrogant of others.
dref619 said:like said above, if he is loyal to liverpool he doesnt look like it, looks like someone who doesnt want to be there to be honest
Plain Speaking said:A thoughtful comment. Even though clubs are our rivals we should respect them. I think Torres is trying to be loyal and I applaud him for that. I do think however he has shown tempermental problems that would make me question whether we should try to sign him in summer. I expect him to go to Spain or even Italy.auction294 said:I've not forgotten his or Reina's interviews. Whether they were miss quoted, or their quotes were taken out of context is irrelevant. Some basis of fact must have been contained and both of them were very critical of us.
As a player I would love to see somebody of his calibre playing for us, whether I want him at the club is another matter. We are now fortunate that we can look at Torres and say, we don't really need you.
To address the original question; Torres will never be a laughing stock, in fact his loyalty and ambition are probably seen as laudable by his peers. If he judges sucess by medals then he wont realise that at Liverpool in the short term but we shouldn't get complacent or even arrogant. Liverpool will again be a force to be reckoned with. It's not history, they have experience as a club. We mock them in jest, good old fashioned banter but we should never dismiss them as that would be what the scum have become self opinionated and arrogant of others.