totally underwhelmed

[BlueLlama]

Clearly you're losing the plot. There's no snide agendas mate, and no idiots. Just City supporters trying to have a discussion about Mancini and his tactics. You're pissing all over it and you keep bringing up Mark Hughes as if anyone actually gives a fuck about him now...

Fine. I can take a hint.

My viewpoint that things aren't quite panic stations yet is not welcome and unless I'm going to lose all perspective and knowledge of football then I'm not allowed to join in the discussion.

As for Hughes being irrelevant, I'd agree but if we're bashing Mancini after 1 draw then why not mention that Sparky boy specialised in terribly entertaining consecutive draws?

-- Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:20 pm --

Jeez we have played one game against a top side with players who have only just come back from WC duty and trained for about a week together. Some fans on here need a reality check or they should wait until they know something about the game before posting.

Don't say that!

You'll be hounded and beaten!

Just agree that Mancini is shit and that we should have won 3-0 yesterday. For your sake, do it.

And against - Hull, Bolton, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham and the mighty Burnley some fans have a short memory.

 

[bluefandk]

I was very happy with yesterdays result, I did not expect us to go to the lane and rape Spuds.

I thought the players especially the new players looked a bit shellshocked in the first 30 min, once we settled down we looked much better, in the second half we actually had periods were we ran the midfield.

Yaya and Silva looked very good once the realised what tempo the prem is played at.

I really dont understand people, who attack our maneger for being to negative, do they expect us to just have to show up and the opposition will roll over?

Mancini will make us very tough to beat, and once our new players get settled I see great things in our future.

(sorry for the positivety)

 

[Anonymous]

Clearly you're losing the plot. There's no snide agendas mate, and no idiots. Just City supporters trying to have a discussion about Mancini and his tactics. You're pissing all over it and you keep bringing up Mark Hughes as if anyone actually gives a fuck about him now...

Fine. I can take a hint.

My viewpoint that things aren't quite panic stations yet is not welcome and unless I'm going to lose all perspective and knowledge of football then I'm not allowed to join in the discussion.

As for Hughes being irrelevant, I'd agree but if we're bashing Mancini after 1 draw then why not mention that Sparky boy specialised in terribly entertaining consecutive draws?

If you want to join the discussion then join it. Go back and have a read of your contributions so far. All you're doing is flaming posters and you're much smarter than that if nothing else.

I'll repeat what I said earlier - people were disappointed with Mancini's more circumspect tactics last season. Yesterday we played the same way, and therefore it follows that people are going to comment on it. It's not a crime and it's hardly being disloyal to City, even though you keep implying that it is.

 

[Rammy Blue]

We were hardly in a position to have a go at Spurs yesterday, they had practically the same 11 playing as last season with no new buys to integrate - this was a team who comfortably did the double over us last year and finished above us.

Had Boateng been available and played up against Bale it would have been an entirely different game.

Having said that though it certainly wasn't the side I would have picked, a 4-4-1-1 with Carlos in behind Ade would have been my choice, however that's Bob's job not mine.

Went for a point, got a point.

Happy days.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Fine. I can take a hint.

My viewpoint that things aren't quite panic stations yet is not welcome and unless I'm going to lose all perspective and knowledge of football then I'm not allowed to join in the discussion.

As for Hughes being irrelevant, I'd agree but if we're bashing Mancini after 1 draw then why not mention that Sparky boy specialised in terribly entertaining consecutive draws?

-- Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:20 pm --



Don't say that!

You'll be hounded and beaten!

Just agree that Mancini is shit and that we should have won 3-0 yesterday. For your sake, do it.

And against - Hull, Bolton, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham and the mighty Burnley some fans have a short memory.

Now you've mentioned Mark Hughes! You're not allowed to do that!

Slagging off 10th place Hughes just shows you to be immature as does bringing up his weekly failings and shit results.

In the name of equality we like to compare Mancini to 'myth man'. Myth man is a manager who wins all his games 10-0 and does so with Ireland and Bellamy in the team.

Until Mancini can compete with Myth man, he's on a hiding to nothing.<br /><br />-- Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:28 pm --<br /><br />

Fine. I can take a hint.

My viewpoint that things aren't quite panic stations yet is not welcome and unless I'm going to lose all perspective and knowledge of football then I'm not allowed to join in the discussion.

As for Hughes being irrelevant, I'd agree but if we're bashing Mancini after 1 draw then why not mention that Sparky boy specialised in terribly entertaining consecutive draws?

If you want to join the discussion then join it. Go back and have a read of your contributions so far. All you're doing is flaming posters and you're much smarter than that if nothing else.

I'll repeat what I said earlier - people were disappointed with Mancini's more circumspect tactics last season. Yesterday we played the same way, and therefore it follows that people are going to comment on it. It's not a crime and it's hardly being disloyal to City, even though you keep implying that it is.

Yesterday we had a lot of things against us and I think it was legitimate to set up conservatively.

If we went out to attack yesterday we'd have been soundly beaten before half time.

If people refuse to take important factors like player fitness into account then any score line will always be disappointing.

 

[BlueLlama]

Fine. I can take a hint.

My viewpoint that things aren't quite panic stations yet is not welcome and unless I'm going to lose all perspective and knowledge of football then I'm not allowed to join in the discussion.

As for Hughes being irrelevant, I'd agree but if we're bashing Mancini after 1 draw then why not mention that Sparky boy specialised in terribly entertaining consecutive draws?

If you want to join the discussion then join it. Go back and have a read of your contributions so far. All you're doing is flaming posters and you're much smarter than that if nothing else.

I'll repeat what I said earlier - people were disappointed with Mancini's more circumspect tactics last season. Yesterday we played the same way, and therefore it follows that people are going to comment on it. It's not a crime and it's hardly being disloyal to City, even though you keep implying that it is.

Not sure about disloyal but to make a negative comment based on a game away against a team that finished 4th with players who have had no time to settle in the team or gain experience of the pace of the Premiership shows stupidity if not disloyalty and I doubt posters on here are stupid so that only leaves an anti Mancini agenda. Make the same comments in December if nothing has changed and I might just agree with you. But not after the first game of the season.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

If you want to join the discussion then join it. Go back and have a read of your contributions so far. All you're doing is flaming posters and you're much smarter than that if nothing else.

I'll repeat what I said earlier - people were disappointed with Mancini's more circumspect tactics last season. Yesterday we played the same way, and therefore it follows that people are going to comment on it. It's not a crime and it's hardly being disloyal to City, even though you keep implying that it is.

Not sure about disloyal but to make a negative comment based on a game away against a team that finished 4th with players who have had no time to settle in the team or gain experience of the pace of the Premiership shows stupidity if not disloyalty and I doubt posters on here are stupid so that only leaves an anti Mancini agenda. Make the same comments in December if nothing has changed and I might just agree with you. But not after the first game of the season.

Hey, Ringo :)

This guy has just said what I'm trying to stay.

That's all.

The Walrus.

 

[GStar]

Whats the point mate, you aren't contributing... you're putting words in other peoples mouth and making sweeping generalisations and presumptions.

The 'excuses' are always the same, yet no-one takes notice when someone tries to counter act them.

Instead, like almost every other BMer, you've jumped in, not bothered to read anything, made asumptions no one has said and the whole thing starts again.

Fantastic.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Whats the point mate, you aren't contributing... you're putting words in other peoples mouth and making sweeping generalisations and presumptions.

The 'excuses' are always the same, yet no-one takes notice when someone tries to counter act them.

Instead, like almost every other BMer, you've jumped in, not bothered to read anything, made asumptions no one has said and the whole thing starts again.

Fantastic.

I'm genuinely sorry.

If I'd have know sticking up for our manager would get me so much trouble I'd have just logged off.

Obviously my opinion isn't valid and unless I'm willing to judge Mancini on one game and refuse to accept that Mancini's hands were tied to a certain degree, I'm not welcome here.

Message received loud and clear.

 

[Anonymous]

If you want to join the discussion then join it. Go back and have a read of your contributions so far. All you're doing is flaming posters and you're much smarter than that if nothing else.

I'll repeat what I said earlier - people were disappointed with Mancini's more circumspect tactics last season. Yesterday we played the same way, and therefore it follows that people are going to comment on it. It's not a crime and it's hardly being disloyal to City, even though you keep implying that it is.

Not sure about disloyal but to make a negative comment based on a game away against a team that finished 4th with players who have had no time to settle in the team or gain experience of the pace of the Premiership shows stupidity if not disloyalty and I doubt posters on here are stupid so that only leaves an anti Mancini agenda. Make the same comments in December if nothing has changed and I might just agree with you. But not after the first game of the season.

Sorry mate, but nobody on here is saying Mancini is shit, or that he should be sacked or anything even close to that. But fuck me, if after a competitive league game, first or last of the season, we can't discuss tactics, team selection, the manager, the players, whatever....then Ric should shut this place down......

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Not sure about disloyal but to make a negative comment based on a game away against a team that finished 4th with players who have had no time to settle in the team or gain experience of the pace of the Premiership shows stupidity if not disloyalty and I doubt posters on here are stupid so that only leaves an anti Mancini agenda. Make the same comments in December if nothing has changed and I might just agree with you. But not after the first game of the season.

Sorry mate, but nobody on here is saying Mancini is shit, or that he should be sacked or anything even close to that. But fuck me, if after a competitive league game, first or last of the season, we can't discuss tactics, team selection, the manager, the players, whatever....then Ric should shut this place down......

If it's OK for some to state the manager get it wrong then why is it not OK for me to point out that Mancini had it tough yesterday and got us the point under difficult circumstances?

 

[GStar]

Whats the point mate, you aren't contributing... you're putting words in other peoples mouth and making sweeping generalisations and presumptions.

The 'excuses' are always the same, yet no-one takes notice when someone tries to counter act them.

Instead, like almost every other BMer, you've jumped in, not bothered to read anything, made asumptions no one has said and the whole thing starts again.

Fantastic.

I'm genuinely sorry.

If I'd have know sticking up for our manager would get me so much trouble I'd have just logged off.

Obviously my opinion isn't valid and unless I'm willing to judge Mancini on one game and refuse to accept that Mancini's hands were tied to a certain degree, I'm not welcome here.

Message received loud and clear.

Haha, a. You're not genuinely sorry.

b. You're not sticking up for the manager, this isn't an either/or scenario, you're just taking the piss very passively

c. No-one's opinion isn't valid, but the way its put across will give it less credibility and finally

d. I'm not judging mancini on one game, i'm seeing new players carry out the exact same instructions as last year. It may be that this is a long road that will end with us winning in this style, so far though it's proved unsuccessful since Mancini took over.

Although i'm lmost certain you knew all that already ;)

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry mate, but nobody on here is saying Mancini is shit, or that he should be sacked or anything even close to that. But fuck me, if after a competitive league game, first or last of the season, we can't discuss tactics, team selection, the manager, the players, whatever....then Ric should shut this place down......

If it's OK for some to state the manager get it wrong then why is it not OK for me to point out that Mancini had it tough yesterday and got us the point under difficult circumstances?

Don't insult my intelligence and try and take some sort of pathetic moral high ground. You turned up in this thread and talked shite for about three pages. In fact, you've made one serious post about the discussion at hand. The meat and potatoes of which was that "it was the first game of the season and the team weren't fit". Thanks for the newsflash Mr Clough.

 

[alera]

Brilliant result yesterday. Yes we were lucky but we will get much much better than that. The players are still strangers, most of them look nothing like match fit. Boatang and maybe Milner to come.

If we had got that result last season at spurs we would be in the champions league this season, it has to be looked at in that context. We are basically 1 point and 3 gd better off vs last season thats the way I am looking at it.

TBH I have no problem with the negative destroy football against the top sides if it means we get results out of games we would other wise loose. Obviously if we play ultra defensive in these games and still loose well questions will be asked.

Arsenal will have been happy with a point at Anfield, sometimes a draw is a good result.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

I'm genuinely sorry.

If I'd have know sticking up for our manager would get me so much trouble I'd have just logged off.

Obviously my opinion isn't valid and unless I'm willing to judge Mancini on one game and refuse to accept that Mancini's hands were tied to a certain degree, I'm not welcome here.

Message received loud and clear.

Haha, a. You're not genuinely sorry.

b. You're not sticking up for the manager, this isn't an either/or scenario, you're just taking the piss very passively

c. No-one's opinion isn't valid, but the way its put across will give it less credibility and finally

d. I'm not judging mancini on one game, i'm seeing new players carry out the exact same instructions as last year. It may be that this is a long road that will end with us winning in this style, so far though it's proved successful since Mancini took over.

Although i'm lmost certain you knew all that already ;)

I just wanted to add some balance to the argument.

Mancini gets so much stick where Hughes was given free reign it's untrue.

If Mancini shipping out the shit players and earning us a difficult point at a team who usually stuffs us is bad then I'm waiting for the good and suspect I'll always be waiting.

Just as the press say 'Ade is lazy' and City fans stop watching him and just take this as gospel. So too are we now just accusing Mancini of stuff we've read or heard 'Lawro' say on TV.

I'll leave this thread now and let the moaners win.

I'll be the one weeping at COMS should we fail to win anything this season, I'll be easy to spot amongst all the celebrations as some people are proven right on Bluemoon which, after all, is all that matters to most who post on here.

I'm all for discussion but this is just Mancini slagging.

It's a shame that fans like me are in the minority on here but I'll never apologise for wanting City to be the best instead of being my own little 'shitty City' plaything.

 

[zeven]

Not sure about disloyal but to make a negative comment based on a game away against a team that finished 4th with players who have had no time to settle in the team or gain experience of the pace of the Premiership shows stupidity if not disloyalty and I doubt posters on here are stupid so that only leaves an anti Mancini agenda. Make the same comments in December if nothing has changed and I might just agree with you. But not after the first game of the season.

Sorry mate, but nobody on here is saying Mancini is shit, or that he should be sacked or anything even close to that. But fuck me, if after a competitive league game, first or last of the season, we can't discuss tactics, team selection, the manager, the playerrs, whatever....then Ric should shut this place down......

I Belive the problem we try to express is: we have not got a point at WHL for ages (six years i think) and now we finally break that trend, ppl are moaning? the tactics obviously worked better than previous ones.

City are becoming a very very hard team to bet, and have a well orginized team and a realable defence is the core of every top class teams. you need that, to build an awesome attack upon. or els we will draw against shit teams and always lose away.

When Mancini feel our core and defence work, im convinced he will take care of the attack if needed.

 

[scorer]

If it's OK for some to state the manager get it wrong then why is it not OK for me to point out that Mancini had it tough yesterday and got us the point under difficult circumstances?

Don't insult my intelligence and try and take some sort of pathetic moral high ground. You turned up in this thread and talked shite for about three pages. In fact, you've made one serious post about the discussion at hand. The meat and potatoes of which was that "it was the first game of the season and the team weren't fit". Thanks for the newsflash Mr Clough.

TMQ... would you like to borrow a shovel to take tothe salt as opposed to the traditional pinch.

Cedrtain posters on here are always right, cant take another point of view or feedback. I cannot understand the people who expected us to go out and score 3 or 4 against Spurs.... after all everyone else is going to win there this season.

 

[Marvin]

Everyone seems happy with the point

Difference of opinion over the quality of our play.

It must improve, but then it's the 1st game with injuries and absences to contend with and we played a strong team.

ONO said it all for me

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

If it's OK for some to state the manager get it wrong then why is it not OK for me to point out that Mancini had it tough yesterday and got us the point under difficult circumstances?

Don't insult my intelligence and try and take some sort of pathetic moral high ground. You turned up in this thread and talked shite for about three pages. In fact, you've made one serious post about the discussion at hand. The meat and potatoes of which was that "it was the first game of the season and the team weren't fit". Thanks for the newsflash Mr Clough.

If you don't think the fitness of the players is important then fine.

No need for personal insults but it that's how you choose to conduct yourself then that's fine too.

 

[Mastes1]

Sorry mate, but nobody on here is saying Mancini is shit, or that he should be sacked or anything even close to that. But fuck me, if after a competitive league game, first or last of the season, we can't discuss tactics, team selection, the manager, the playerrs, whatever....then Ric should shut this place down......

I Belive the problem we try to express is: we have not got a point at WHL for ages (six years i think) and now we finally break that trend, ppl are moaning? the tactics obviously worked better than previous ones.

City are becoming a very very hard team to bet, and have a well orginized team and a realable defence is the core of every top class teams. you need that, to build an awesome attack upon. or els we will draw against shit teams and always lose away.

When Mancini feel our core and defence work, im convinced he will take care of the attack if needed.

The score could of been 5 or 6/nil yesterday, it wasn't and Hart is your keeper so that has to be taken into account but i wouldn't start talking like you're going to be hardly conceding goals yet.