Tottenham Hotspur thread (2015/16)

They're going backwards. Levy thinks he's the great wheeler-dealer who waits until the last minute to do all their deals hoping to get a bargain.

They simply haven't invested in the squad, which is criminal when there's been a top four place going begging the last few seasons if they'd gone for it.

One day he's going to wake up to the realisation that forward thinking teams like Swansea, Stoke & Palace have overtaken them. Won't that be amusing.

I don't know where this impression that Levy is shrewd in the transfer market seems to have come from. What he seems to be is totally unwilling to take a risk and spend a sizeable sum of money on a player who is either top quality, or has the potential to be so. If you want to crack the top 4 then £20m signings, although all well and good, won't cut it unless they are complemented by £30m-£40m signings as well.
 
I don't know where this impression that Levy is shrewd in the transfer market seems to have come from.

I would suggest this is partly due to Spurs selling players for fees above what most would expect. Paulihno is a recent example. At Spurs he was no better than Dabo was for us. Yet Spurs ended up selling him for more than £10m.



What he seems to be is totally unwilling to take a risk and spend a sizeable sum of money on a player who is either top quality, or has the potential to be so.

I have been saying the same thing for a while. He's a very good with money but he doesn't appear to do strategy. He follows a basic moneyball approach that is designed to increase the dividends for himself and Joe Lewis, rather than to develop a team. The lack of ambition and foresight of Levy and the Spurs board has held back the club (the more I think about it, the more like him).
 
I don't know where this impression that Levy is shrewd in the transfer market seems to have come from. What he seems to be is totally unwilling to take a risk and spend a sizeable sum of money on a player who is either top quality, or has the potential to be so. If you want to crack the top 4 then £20m signings, although all well and good, won't cut it unless they are complemented by £30m-£40m signings as well.
He thought spending 50m+ on Lamela and Soldado would take us to the next level but it backfired, it was the first time since the Ramos/Redknapp time that he really splashed the cash, I think that put him off a bit, although he did bid nearly 25m for Berahino. I can't see us spending 40m quid for quite a while.

There are rumours flying around that Llrois wanted to go to Old Trafford in the summer but the deal fell through, hopefully a load of bollocks but wouldn't surprise me
 
He thought spending 50m+ on Lamela and Soldado would take us to the next level but it backfired, it was the first time since the Ramos/Redknapp time that he really splashed the cash, I think that put him off a bit, although he did bid nearly 25m for Berahino. I can't see us spending 40m quid for quite a while.

There are rumours flying around that Llrois wanted to go to Old Trafford in the summer but the deal fell through, hopefully a load of bollocks but wouldn't surprise me

Lloris has been "wanting to leave" for a couple of years now, problem is he normally drops enough bollocks on the pitch for people to have 2nd thoughts at Levy's prices.

Great keeper 85% of the time, absolute bobbins the rest. Weird keeper.
 
Lloris has been "wanting to leave" for a couple of years now, problem is he normally drops enough bollocks on the pitch for people to have 2nd thoughts at Levy's prices.

Great keeper 85% of the time, absolute bobbins the rest. Weird keeper.

I'd disagree with you there mate I think he's fantastic. I think Chelsea, City, United and Spurs wouldn't swap their goalies for anyone else in the league. The only thing I don't like about Lloris is his distribution. He has made a few occasional clangers for Spurs but nothing that shits me up like Gomes used to do every match. It's just a shame we haven't got a good defence to match our goalie!
 
I'd disagree with you there mate I think he's fantastic. I think Chelsea, City, United and Spurs wouldn't swap their goalies for anyone else in the league. The only thing I don't like about Lloris is his distribution. He has made a few occasional clangers for Spurs but nothing that shits me up like Gomes used to do every match. It's just a shame we haven't got a good defence to match our goalie!

well yes, but there are some days you'd rather have Massimo Taibi than Gomes in goal.

For a supposed world class goalie, there are too many games I watch involving Spurs where there's at least one moment of "what the fuck are you doing, Hugo?"
 
Spurs have taken a gamble by signing Heung-min and N'Jie as their new forwards. Kane definitely needs help and how quickly those two players settle could well define their season.

Spurs look good defensively for me. Vertonghen and Alderweireld could develop into a very good CB partnership whilst Lloris is one of the best goalkeepers in the league. They're still short of quality in centre midfield. Mason, Dier, Bentaleb and Dembele as a group of centre midfielders is miles away from being the quality required to finish in the top four. I think they needed Waynama plus somebody like Cabaye. I've got no idea how they let Cabaye go to Palace, especially at that price.

I can't help but think Spurs missed a trick by not signing Draxler for the £30 million he went for - £5 million more than Spurs offered for Berahino.
 
I'd disagree with you there mate I think he's fantastic. I think Chelsea, City, United and Spurs wouldn't swap their goalies for anyone else in the league. The only thing I don't like about Lloris is his distribution. He has made a few occasional clangers for Spurs but nothing that shits me up like Gomes used to do every match. It's just a shame we haven't got a good defence to match our goalie!

Id rather have David James back then lloris. Every time I watch a spurs game live, he does something dodgy. Great shot stopper, but not a great keeper.
 
well yes, but there are some days you'd rather have Massimo Taibi than Gomes in goal.

For a supposed world class goalie, there are too many games I watch involving Spurs where there's at least one moment of "what the fuck are you doing, Hugo?"

I'd never have that Taibi in goal, mind you I can only remember him playing one game!!

I think the other rivals goalies I mentioned as well have had patchy spells but no one would give them up. Llrois is a good shot stopper but his decision making is a lot better than earlier on at Spurs, he's saved us more points than any other Spurs goalie we have had in a long time.

If I thought he was wank I'd be the first one to say it because I don't believe in overrating players if they aren't that great. He's been the best in my lifetime, I was a bit too young to appreciate Ray Clemence although my Dad prefers him and Jennings over Lloris
 
I think David James was an excellent goalkeeper. He was much maligned for an occasional hiccup that was highlighted but I think he was a top keeper overall. IMO of course.
 
I'd never have that Taibi in goal, mind you I can only remember him playing one game!!

I think the other rivals goalies I mentioned as well have had patchy spells but no one would give them up. Llrois is a good shot stopper but his decision making is a lot better than earlier on at Spurs, he's saved us more points than any other Spurs goalie we have had in a long time.

If I thought he was wank I'd be the first one to say it because I don't believe in overrating players if they aren't that great. He's been the best in my lifetime, I was a bit too young to appreciate Ray Clemence although my Dad prefers him and Jennings over Lloris
Better than Kasey Keller!?
 
I would suggest this is partly due to Spurs selling players for fees above what most would expect. Paulihno is a recent example. At Spurs he was no better than Dabo was for us. Yet Spurs ended up selling him for more than £10m.

I have been saying the same thing for a while. He's a very good with money but he doesn't appear to do strategy. He follows a basic moneyball approach that is designed to increase the dividends for himself and Joe Lewis, rather than to develop a team. The lack of ambition and foresight of Levy and the Spurs board has held back the club (the more I think about it, the more like him).

I think that price had more to do with the fact that Spurs bought him for 19mil in the first instance.

I also remember when Spurs got Paulinho and Soldado in the same window when we got Fernandinho and Negredo we were lambasted for our poor purchases at the time...
 
I think that price had more to do with the fact that Spurs bought him for 19mil in the first instance.

I also remember when Spurs got Paulinho and Soldado in the same window when we got Fernandinho and Negredo we were lambasted for our poor purchases at the time...

The fact that Levy got anything for Paulinho was a masterstroke but I take your point, that he made a loss on the. Beazilian. My point was that Levy has a poor record in terms of purchases but a good record in sales.

The Soldado/Paulinho comparison with Nagredo/Ferna made me chuckle. Still does. I am not shy in repeating it to Spurs fans.




Edit: bloody autocorrect
 
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Interesting to see what Spurs strategy is going forward. WHL holds just over 36,000 and is always full for league games (not all cup games). Spurs without doubt need a bigger stadium but the New WHL which is due to open in 2018 is expected to hold 61,000. Levy must spend some serious money between now and then to get 20-25,000 "fans" to leave their bar stools and actually attend matches. They are a very big club but the match going tradition has been lost / was never there for many "fans" due to the size of the current stadium. The fact that these "fans" don't turn up for cup games where tickets are available must be a concern for them.Will he spend the money required to fill the ground? In my opinion he'd be stupid not to but only time will tell.
 
Spurs and Arsenal are teams that have no bollocks. I look at both of their teams and there is one phrase that pops out at me every time, soft arses. They've got no players that will get stuck in. Add that to poor distribution of funds and you have two teams that can't score, and midfields that rely on a single player too much.
 
I can understand the people who don't think Lloris is excellent, he's been prone to high profile errors over the years. Though he's a brilliant shot stopper and is good at rushing out quickly and dealing with danger. He's not had the best defences in front of him too, let's be honest. One save that comes to mind is against us from an Aguero header, think it was 2013/14 season at WHL.
 
Interesting piece in the Express suggesting that Southampton and West Ham are both considering refusing to deal with Spurs anymore because of their transfer antics this season:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...anchester-United-Victor-Wanyama-Transfer-News

Be interesting if true, wonder if we can get a similar thing going with the entire Serie A.

I can understand Southampton being pissed off with them, and West Brom. West Ham on the other hand are being a trifle precious, and I would suggest they are just using the opportunity to stick the boot in.
 

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