Tough start to the season compared to our rivals | December comparison (Pg10)

There can't be such a trend with crowds at the grounds.
It seems to be the way. Maybe it's just a continuation of what happened last season, as like you say, there was no home crowd advantage... and after a bit it will return to how it always was

There has been 300 points won in total so far this season in the PL

150 won by home teams and 150 by away teams, so there has been no home advantage

Us, scousers, rags, West Ham and Brighton have won more points away than at home. Chelsea have the same points total home and away
 
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It seems to be the way. Maybe it's just a continuation of what happened last season, as like you say, there was no home crowd advantage... and after a bit it will return to how it always was

There has been 300 points won in total so far this season in the PL

150 won by home teams and 150 by away teams, so there has been no home advantage

Us, scousers, rags, West Ham and Brighton have won more points away than at home. Chelsea have the same points total home and away

Those stats will be very different come the end of the season. Teams may be adjusting from empty to full grounds, but soon it will be business as usual.
 
I agree we have had a tougher start than our rivals. And most of them away as well.
But somehow I feel we play better away than we do at home. My guess it’s a combination of teams playing more defensively, and a poor pitch at our place. Etihad hasn’t been a fortress for too long.
 
We've actually played a similar set of fixtures as our two closest rivals, the main difference is we've played almost all of them away, that would normally indicate an advantge to us in the second half of the season but the numbers both across the league and our own personal ones are telling a different story right now. we've lost one and drawn one home and away, difference being it was spurs and Liverpool away, Southampton and Palace at home. Whether it gives us an edge or not remains to be seen but it certainly doesn't make it any harder for us, at absolute worst we're on a par with our rivals, at best we've got home advantage. We're in a good spot.

The tough start is not a coincidence in my opinion. The powers in charge deliberately tried to give their red favourites a head start hoping we would go so far behind that it would demoralize us. Did we play Chelsea and Liverpool away before and after PSG in the Champions League? That was just a joke and to me a clear attempt of sabotaging our season. Well guess what you FA fuckers. It didn't work.
There's many many flaws with this nut job theory but you are aware the league fixture list came out about 2 months before the champions league draw was even made by a separate footballing body aren't you? Or are you suggesting they conspired to fix it so we got psg and fix it so we happened to play them away that exact fixture. What about Chelsea playing their hardest fixture Juve away immediately after our game, was that a ploy to demoralise their season with two big defeats in a matter of days too?

The tough start wasn't a coincidence, you are correct on that, it was a statistical liklihood.
 
The tough start is not a coincidence in my opinion. The powers in charge deliberately tried to give their red favourites a head start hoping we would go so far behind that it would demoralize us. Did we play Chelsea and Liverpool away before and after PSG in the Champions League? That was just a joke and to me a clear attempt of sabotaging our season. Well guess what you FA fuckers. It didn't work.
That’s some paranoia that. Even to the level that they knew what our champions league group would be to wedge between Chelsea and liverpool.
 
We've actually played a similar set of fixtures as our two closest rivals, the main difference is we've played almost all of them away, that would normally indicate an advantge to us in the second half of the season but the numbers both across the league and our own personal ones are telling a different story right now. we've lost one and drawn one home and away, difference being it was spurs and Liverpool away, Southampton and Palace at home. Whether it gives us an edge or not remains to be seen but it certainly doesn't make it any harder for us, at absolute worst we're on a par with our rivals, at best we've got home advantage. We're in a good spot.


There's many many flaws with this nut job theory but you are aware the league fixture list came out about 2 months before the champions league draw was even made by a separate footballing body aren't you? Or are you suggesting they conspired to fix it so we got psg and fix it so we happened to play them away that exact fixture. What about Chelsea playing their hardest fixture Juve away immediately after our game, was that a ploy to demoralise their season with two big defeats in a matter of days too?

The tough start wasn't a coincidence, you are correct on that, it was a statistical liklihood.
The dates of CL games are known but not the actual opponents. Giving us Chelsea and Liverpool away around a CL date is pretty much guaranteeing something very difficult. Which of the other English CL participants had a similar couple of away games around a CL tie?
 
That’s some paranoia that. Even to the level that they knew what our champions league group would be to wedge between Chelsea and liverpool.
Put it another way, what would the odds have been of getting the first 6 aways as being scum dippers chelsea spurs and Leicester (the 5 most likely in the top 6 other than us) and Brighton (where we lost last season)? 6 really tough aways after a difficult close season with euros. Either deliberate or the coincidence to end all coincidences. Fucking good job the refs and var are unbiased as well, oh wait …
 
Quite unbelievable really.

The way I look at it is everyone plays everyone twice. Home and away. It’s that straightforward.

We have got our supposed hard games out of the way, the away legs, and it’s only mid November.
Go on red cafe or rawk and everyone was moaning we had the easiest run in and asking how much cash we bunged them to make sure we did.

It’s just football fans viewing everything through the prism of their own bias. It’s exhausting, and it ends up like the boy crying wolf so that when there is an actual agenda against City - in the media for example - the point gets lost against the white noise of agenda.
 

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