trade unions

[ernesto]

In my personal opinion because they want to protect (naturally) their current working conditions. The problem is that the early retirement and pensions are not sustainable

nothing to do with people being dismissed for trade union activity, ie trying to get union recognition in the private sector. for the simple reason it may cost profits, and a decent working environment for workers. ? explain

I don't think your point relates to mine. Workers have every right to be represented. But I am not convinced that unions are always the best route. As has been said, bob crow is an arse who cries about rights and then ignores due process

-- Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:01 am --

Unions tend to hunt in packs though and this tool does them no favours.

deary me

and i cant quote lol.
bob crowe is and always be dictated to by his members re pay and conditions, i understand he is under a mandate that can be rduced or increased by the members of his union

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

nothing to do with people being dismissed for trade union activity, ie trying to get union recognition in the private sector. for the simple reason it may cost profits, and a decent working environment for workers. ? explain

I don't think your point relates to mine. Workers have every right to be represented. But I am not convinced that unions are always the best route. As has been said, bob crow is an arse who cries about rights and then ignores due process

-- Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:01 am --


deary me

and i cant quote lol.
bob crowe is and always be dictated to by his members re pay and conditions, i understand he is under a mandate that can be rduced or increased by the members of his union

He is a political thug who does no good for the union movement. My original point was about the unsustainability of the public sectors conditions and that is why most strikes are public sector. Being in a union can't save them from economic reality

 

[scall11]

Bob Crowe is an idiot who is the worst side of unionism. Constantly asking for more when the country is on its knees.

Job losses, pay cuts etc are all bad yes, but look out the window, country's in a mess. I wish Crowe would shut his cake hole. His members arent the only ones feeling the pinch.

Unions are good in pthe way they solidify a workforce against bad bosses. But sometimes they just go a bit too far in tgeir demands.

Any major workforce, like call centres, should be unionised to ensure basic working levels are mey though.

 

[law74]

Trade Unions are only strong in the public sector?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/apr/02/visteon-enfield-ford-protest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009 ... rd-protest</a>
A good recent example of Union activity in the private sector,


An example of public and private sector workers standing up against a private company to defend workers rights
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.u.tv/News/Sacked-traffic-wardens-hold-city-protest/cc2baa5c-86d6-4675-becc-4a32c438a16b" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.u.tv/News/Sacked-traffic-war ... 32c438a16b</a>

While we have managers and directors wanting to return us to dickensian times, the working man and woman of the nation need to stand together to defend ALL our rights and conditions in the workplace.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Whilst unions still have a role to play it is significantly diminished from 30 years ago.

This is in part due to the lamentable decline in our status as a manufacturing nation.

Which was mainly brought about by the unions.

And also by the anti-union legislation brought in by Thatcher

Who was elected because of the unions.

They have brought about their own demise. If they hadn't spent the whole of the 1970's perpetually holding the country to ransom, and bringing successive governments down then they would probably have a more active role to play than they do now. And I think that would, on balance, be a good thing, but they've only got themselves to blame for where they find themselves today.

 

[Lucky13]

Whilst unions still have a role to play it is significantly diminished from 30 years ago.

This is in part due to the lamentable decline in our status as a manufacturing nation.

Which was mainly brought about by the unions.

And also by the anti-union legislation brought in by Thatcher

Who was elected because of the unions.

They have brought about their own demise. If they hadn't spent the whole of the 1970's perpetually holding the country to ransom, and bringing successive governments down then they would probably have a more active role to play than now. And I think that would, on balance, be a good thing, but they've only got themselves to blame for where they find themselves today.

Good post.

 

[shadygiz]

anyone watch the "we are at war" documentary last night about the miners strikes...brought it all back to me, i had forgotten about the level of violence that was shown by the miners & trade unionists towards fellow members that were forced back into work solely to feed their families

 

[kronkonite]

you mean shown towards miners and trade unionists surely?

fantastic quote up there somewhere

"unionists tend to hunt in packs"

....that's their raison d'etre , and more power to their increasingly weakened elbow.


why is it ok for them to withdraw their capital whilst they t prevent us from withdrawing our labour?

 

[ernesto]

you mean shown towards miners and trade unionists surely?

fantastic quote up there somewhere

"unionists tend to hunt in packs"

....that's their raison d'etre , and more power to their increasingly weakened elbow.


why is it ok for them to withdraw their capital whilst they t prevent us from withdrawing our labour?

because they want us back in the dark ages thats why, doffing your cap at the governor, and thanking them that they have given you a shite low paid job, whilst they swan around

 

[kronkonite]

it was rhetorical mate

thanks though:0