Says it all really, You want violence then get in a ring or fuck off to the army. It's a football match where people go to funnily enough...watch football. If you want to be a smackhead and act like a prick then go to a place where it's welcomed. Unfortunately for you, a football stadium isn't one of them.
If you have to be smacked off your tits or pissed up to the eyeballs to show some passion for your team then I would call it a day pal
Somebody posted after the Tottenham game that VAR would lead to an increase in violence at matches. I think a combination of the late kick off and the frustrating use of VAR increased the risk of violence. It shouldn't happen but passions are always raised on Derby Day and Mike Riley and his cabal of referees have provided another fuse.
Well said. Having spoke to 'dennis' on the phone a few times he comes across as a sound enough old skool blue to me.I’ve known @dennishasdoneit for over 20 years and believe you me, you won’t meet many sounder blokes. I know his post doesn’t come off as being particularly palatable but I can assure you he most certainly isn’t advocating indiscriminate violence against innocent bystanders.
Well said. Having spoke to 'dennis' on the phone a few times he comes across as a sound enough old skool blue to me.
I didn't read into it that he he was condoning violence, it's just that he's been around it kicking off bigtime(as I have) back in the day. You had to beat or be beaten, or fast on your toes. Running wasn't cool though unless outnumbered.Sounds like the right man to have next to you in a scrap.
I understand your point but the real evil is that those are not "the rules" and you know it is not the way it should be. It is bullying thuggery that has been "accepted" because the silent majority are afraid to speak up against it and neither the football authorities nor clubs are competent to deal with it. Other professional sports have equally "passionate" fans but rarely experience this criminal behaviour. Many have spoken out against this crap here, perhaps we should be louder.Honestly, I think football now is very sanitised compared to what it was inthe sixties and seventies. There was an evil atmosphere in the ground on Saturday, but it's become incredibly rare. Football is not just about what goes on the pitch. It is tribal, too, and anyone telling themselves otherwise is kidding themselves. I've never attacked anyone in my life at a match. But I have been attacked.
I was in among the home fans at Burnley, with a mate, a good lad, who's a life long Burnley fan. I sat on my hands. Out of respect for him. But also because those are the rules. And everyone knows them. If you're an away supporter, in among home fans, and you're giving it the big one you're asking for trouble. I don't condone it, but that's the way it is.
It’s the early leavers trying to get out of the family stand on 85 mins.Where is that in the ground?
Not as bad as a grown man who cant handle a bit of violence on Match day..stop bleating about something nothing to do with you and that you weren't involved in.
Lads fight at Derby game as tempers erupt....so what? ??
I bet you sayt on your seat like a good boy having vivid flashbacks to the days a when you could drink all day take drugs and others called you a scrote.
it's been going on for decades pal
The only noise /atmosphere in the stadium ,imo came from the away end full of fans who has been drinking all day..their team responded with passion and fight.....I wonder why.their players celebrated in front of the their fans who were loud and proud
Meanwhile ..the slightest bit of aggression in the City section and Walter mittys are tut tutting .....outraged of Prestwich? Ffs
Them were the days!Some bluemoon posters would have needed therapy if they had been in the North Stand at Maine Road during the 5-1.
Were you at Gorton then?Worked with Sam for a good few years early 2000's.
Red **** but a good lad.
Some bluemoon posters would have needed therapy if they had been in the North Stand at Maine Road during the 5-1.
I don't qualify as I was in the kippax that daySome bluemoon posters would have needed therapy if they had been in the North Stand at Maine Road during the 5-1.
I don't qualify as I was in the kippax that day
Good point well made. The behavior at football matches has always been indicative of socio/economic trends. In the 70's we had strikes, unions and the 3 day week - a very depressing period. Football violence in Britain was rife and extremely nasty and widespread. In the 80's people had money and football became trendy as did the hooligans which gave birth to the 'casual'. Currently there is uncertainty, mistrust, a rotten political system that has exposed gaping divisions amongst society. Therefore, within football we are now seeing a steady rise in 'tension' (aggro/racism/homophobia etc etc).Football is a picture of society. Always has been.
You have those who have money sat in the good areas and those with less money and due to a feeling of either not listened to, heard or whatever vent their feelings on occasions like this.
It seems it is creeping back, both violence and the nasty comments.
Why is that, is it because that is the case in society. Look at how politicians talk to each other and about the public at times, look at the crime stats, seem to have risen
Ditto.Prob best day of my life.I don't qualify as I was in the kippax that day
Some bluemoon posters would have needed therapy if they had been in the North Stand at Maine Road during the 5-1.
I was in there that game, great day on and off the pitch. Rag bullies thought they'd take liberties in the North stand as usual thinking it was an easy target and come unstuck big time.