TV Referral System to be trialed in 2015

[Bigga]

I know we're going around in circles but..

So how would VR work in todays scenario then. The game immediately stops for a replay? This could be open to abuse by manager and stop the flow of the game. E.g a team breaking on a counter attack would obviously be stopped so the replay could be shown.

Or the second option as Blatter suggested. The VR would be shown once the ball is dead. I think we pretty much agree this could never work.

In this particular case, it's clear cut. There is no 'break away' and two players are appealing strenuously to the ref. Using Blatter's idiotic notion, the manager would appeal as he could not have possibly seen anything from there, but goes off his player's reaction. This would mean getting the immediate attention of the 4th/ 5th official or the players alerting the manager immediately(frantically waving/ sign language/ smoke signals/ whatever) so he could register the appeal.

So, yeah, 'immediate stop' and review.

Surely you cant just pick and choose incidents when the game can immediately stop for a replay just because a few players thought it was a penalty.

RIGHT!!

The first thing we can all do is stop the romantic ideal about football!! The general 'we' have this idea that it is fast and free flowing with no stoppages. Bull sh*t. There are an innate amount of stoppages all at the referee's discretion. The ref decides if they want to stop a game to talk to a player, whether to allow a player to be attended to, whether they want to consult a linesman, speak to a manager, award a foul, give a 'drop ball'.

A 'challenge' is no different. If the ref wants to review it there and then, fine. If they want to see if the ball goes out in the next couple of seconds, fine. If not, they roll back the play like the 'advantage' discretion. If there is a seed of doubt it would be the right thing to do to review because the players are vociferous in objection.

Again, the Wilshere incident shows that from the linesman's view, he can't tell as the arm moves quickly a short distance forward and Clattenburg can't see from behind. The VR gives him a third option as he can't get the support from his linesman, so there has to be an element of doubt in his head, judging the players natural reaction.

Really, why is this so hard to think about???

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Correct^

Also 'keepers like Begovic and Howard take between 40seconds-1min10secs to take a goal kick. To show Wilshire's hand ball yesterday would take about 15secs.

You're spot on. Football is a game littered with long stoppages. This is not water polo!

Plus, getting the right decision is the most important thing. I don't care if that adds five minutes worth of stoppages if the right decision is made.


Three things it's needed for:
1. Goal / no goal
Is there anything leading up, in the immediate phase of play, that should not allow a goal that has been scored to stand (ball out of play, offside, foul...)?

2. Penalty / no penalty
If the officials didn't quite see or aren't quite sure about an incident, was it a foul or handball or not?

3. Red card / no red card
If the officials didn't quite see or aren't quite sure about an incident, is the foul severe enough, or not, for it to be deemed a sending off?


I'm excited! Football is finally catching up to 1990s rugby league and 1980s gridiron.