Two minors suspended by club for offensive chanting at Brighton game | 17 year old charged by GMP (p29)

Pubteam Lomas said:
Club can't win on this one.
If they announced they'd 'had a word' with the culprits they would've been criticised, by the rag loving media, for the lack of sanctions.
And it would be brought up at every future opportunity, you can bet your life on that.

Ban them and supporters criticise them for their heavy handedness.
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How much criticism did the dippers get for just moving the two blokes that spat at our bench ? None.

City should have kept it in house
 
Hopefully this serves as a warning for all the wankers that conatantly want to film themselves and go viral. Wouldn't have even made local news had the dick that posted it just kept it to themselves. I hope their now banned mates have more than a few words to say to them
 
Centurions said:
But we're not "back in the day", it's 2023 and society has moved on. People are acting like they've been thrown in the gulag.
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If you really believe society has moved on then I pity you. Society has been silenced (for now) that’s all. But that’s a whole different subject to a couple of drunk lads singing a derogatory song. The punishment is simply a way of woke control freaks flexing some symbol of control.
 
Johnny_Crossan said:
Banning them is fine, I think it’s the police charging one of them for it that’s annoyed most people.

As mentioned - the club have bowed to the media yet again. We didn’t even get a name of the person that scarred the young girl for life against Liverpool.
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How are the club connected to the kids being charged? Surely if the video was on social media and then picked up on by the press who made a huge deal of it then its out of the clubs hands by then.
It isn't as if City have reported them to the police, it's whoever filmed it and the press who made it an issue that got the police involved.
Same with the scousers throwing stuff, it isn't City who have protected them, it's the police not working out who it was and their own fans protecting one of their own that has allowed a criminal to walk free.
I umderstand that the way City have handled various things isn't how we would want them to do it, but blaming them for the inability and inaction of various police forces and for dippers not doing the right thing is a bit over the top in this thread.
Once this hit the national press this was always how it was going to end irrespective of anything City did, particularly with the new laws that are part of this government's authoritarian crack down on speech that they or the wider hand wringing, rage baiting, rag loving Daily Mail readers find 'offensive' or upsetting.
 
can a forum lawyer explain what in the world the cps have charged these lads with? The news reports say a ‘public order offence’ but I am struggling to understand how speech, other than inciting hatred or racism, is a crime?
 
danielwood5 said:
How are the club connected to the kids being charged? Surely if the video was on social media and then picked up on by the press who made a huge deal of it then its out of the clubs hands by then.
It isn't as if City have reported them to the police, it's whoever filmed it and the press who made it an issue that got the police involved.
Same with the scousers throwing stuff, it isn't City who have protected them, it's the police not working out who it was and their own fans protecting one of their own that has allowed a criminal to walk free.
I umderstand that the way City have handled various things isn't how we would want them to do it, but blaming them for the inability and inaction of various police forces and for dippers not doing the right thing is a bit over the top in this thread.
Once this hit the national press this was always how it was going to end irrespective of anything City did, particularly with the new laws that are part of this government's authoritarian crack down on speech that they or the wider hand wringing, rage baiting, rag loving Daily Mail readers find 'offensive' or upsetting.
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I work for the club and I know 100% it was City that informed GMP of the lads names.
 
M Gaudino said:
can a forum lawyer explain what in the world the cps have charged these lads with? The news reports say a ‘public order offence’ but I am struggling to understand how speech, other than inciting hatred or racism, is a crime?
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There have been a load of new laws sneaked in over the last couple of years about what people can and can't say, either online or in a public setting.
Some of these laws talk about 'offending the public decency' and stuff like that, it's how the protestors at the coronation were preemptively arrested despite them not breaking any actual laws.
As soon as this got the airtime it did and rags started tagging the GMP on to the posts on social media it was inevitable that the CPS were going to get involved. The people tagging the police were essentially reporting that they thought a crime had been committed.
Either that or something, something, woke, cancel culture, can't even say the N word anymore, whatever happened to free speech like the good old days, blah, blah, blah.
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
Club can't win on this one.
If they announced they'd 'had a word' with the culprits they would've been criticised, by the rag loving media, for the lack of sanctions.
And it would be brought up at every future opportunity, you can bet your life on that.

Ban them and supporters criticise them for their heavy handedness.
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I can’t recall any club ever commenting on a social media post of a few kids singing a silly song on the concourse before.

We can only guess but if the club hadn’t highlighted it by rushing out this official apology, my guess is it would have got no further than a few opposition fans sharing in on Twitter.
 
Johnny_Crossan said:
I work for the club and I know 100% it was City that informed GMP of the lads names.
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Did the police ask them for the names?
It'd be interesting to know how they knew who they were, did they use the CCTV to track them to their seats and get their names that way.
 
Stephen230 said:
I can’t recall any club ever commenting on a social media post of a few kids singing a silly song on the concourse before.

We can only guess but if the club hadn’t highlighted it by rushing out this official apology, my guess is it would have got no further than a few opposition fans sharing in on Twitter.
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Did the club apologise before the press picked up on it?
 
Stephen230 said:
Most of the headlines I saw highlighted City’s reaction to it more than the incident itself. So I’d say yes.
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The person who posted it must have tagged the club in to the post then for them to pick up on it and have an apology drafted and sent out before the press reported it.
I suspect it's more likely that the press had found it and asked the club for a response while they were writing their story and City tried to get ahead of it.
 
danielwood5 said:
Did the police ask them for the names?
It'd be interesting to know how they knew who they were, did they use the CCTV to track them to their seats and get their names that way.
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The family for one of the kids came forward to the club, I’m assuming thinking it would be a slap on the wrist. Not turn into a police charge.
 
danielwood5 said:
The person who posted it must have tagged the club in to the post then for them to pick up on it and have an apology drafted and sent out before the press reported it.
I suspect it's more likely that the press had found it and asked the club for a response while they were writing their story and City tried to get ahead of it.
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I’ve no idea about the chain of events. All I do know is, as I said originally, that I’ve never known any other club feel the need to make official statements about a bit of singing on the concourse. And I don’t think there was any need here, whether they were asked about it by the press or not.
 
Johnny_Crossan said:
I work for the club and I know 100% it was City that informed GMP of the lads names.
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Whilst I agree that i don't think the police should even be getting involved with something like this, if they've asked the club for the names I wouldn't expect the club to go out on a limb to protect their identities. At the end of the day, the police are a key stakeholder and they're not going to risk that relationship to protect two little idiots whose behaviour has created a problem for the club. Nothing will happen to them, they'll be fine.
 
Stephen230 said:
I’ve no idea about the chain of events. All I do know is, as I said originally, that I’ve never known any other club feel the need to make official statements about a bit of singing on the concourse. And I don’t think there was any need here, whether they were asked about it by the press or not.
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As a club, we also made a statement about the Villa keeper getting ‘hit’ by a pitch invader, apologising and saying we’ll find the culprit BEFORE Villa released their own statement saying he wasn’t hit and there’s no issue.

We are very scared of the media, too scared and a lot of the time shoot ourselves in the foot.
 
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