Two Year Academy Transfer Ban Imposed On City

The 2 kids we have to let go without compensation, continue to pay for their education and have to let go when the contract date expires - guess where they will end up on a free?
 
Coming from a background of coaching American football, I can tell you that our club needs to take a long hard look at itself.

Literally.

Most sports organisations worth their salt employ an in house compliance officer, whose job is specifically to ensure this sort of stuff gets caught within the organisation before it becomes an issue.

Major egg on our face, just like FFP and our joke of a pr dept.

Personally, I'd take Garry Cook back tomorrow as he had his eyes on everything and not just commercial growth like Soriano.

Garry Cook. Stick to American football mate
 
Judging by the fact that right now at the Academy Stadium the kids are 2 nil down to Southampton in PL2 we must have nicked the wrong kids.
 
So we didn't offer any bribes or financial enticement... we only offered to take them on at our academy? Fair enough the rules are the rules but morally we haven't done much wrong in my eyes, except offer them a much better chance at making a good career for themselves with a much better academy, nothing shady about that.

Though I would like to believe that
Well you are of course correct. Fans do not understand the recruitment of kids.
However it is just as naive to believe City are worse than some other clubs in this.
As I said before as the size of the club increases it gets more and more difficult to control. We do have unscrupulous employees, that i am sure, as do other clubs.

Well can you name another north west club that have pinched as many young players as we have?
 
Though I would like to believe that


Well can you name another north west club that have pinched as many young players as we have?

You do know these kids and their parents are already aware of the setup with have here... they will come to us a lot of the time and there's nothing anyone can say about that(otherwise it would be pointless building a world class academy).
 
You do know these kids and their parents are already aware of the setup with have here... they will come to us a lot of the time and there's nothing anyone can say about that.

They will when there's money on the table!
 
Though I would like to believe that


Well can you name another north west club that have pinched as many young players as we have?

As I said we do have unscrupulous employees. I was not disagreeing with you. But do not be fooled into thinking we are worse than others.
 
I disagree with that, I'm not defending the breaking of the rules(we know the rules or should do and we should follow them) but from a moral standpoint and the best interests of these kids the talk of "false hope" is just rubbish... we have one of, if not THE best setup around in the UK. Put it this way who'd have a better chance of making a success of themselves a player at ours or someone at a small club with less resources, worse coaches, less staff, less attention to detail, don't we have an on campus college now for our academy?

Also we aren't guaranteeing anything it's up to them to make the best of the opportunities they have, it's not immoral, if we were bribing parents and offering them paychecks you'd have a point but with regards to these kids themselves it's the exact opposite of we don't just dump them if they end up not being good enough either(we prepare them to be successful whether it's at our club or not, we try and find them clubs if they are being moved on) I don't know where you've got that idea from. The only people who lose out here are the smaller clubs who want a payday, that's all this is about money for smaller clubs(maybe there could be a clause when they take them on should he make it to the first team? One that all prem clubs have to agree to). I'm all for keeping smaller clubs afloat but do they really "deserve" it though? Most of the time it's just pot luck that they have them due to their location and nothing else.

But it doesn't work like that. Of course we have amazing facilities, but being at City doesn't mean it improves your chance of making it in football. It can actually work against you.
Being at a smaller club, like Bury, or Oldham Athletic can improve your chances of making it - which are still slim, but it can certainly have less attrition at that level.
This is the big problem with big name clubs - young kids are drawn to big names, and often their parents are too, and that's where the false hope comes from... the faintest hope of playing for City / United / Liverpool etc is VERY persuasive, but the child can still be better served at Oldham, or Southampton etc. We have to be so careful about equating the best facilities with the best chance at making it. It's not the same thing and it's one of the reasons the rules are in place to stop big clubs dazzling kids and their parents.
 

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