UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

[HelloCity]

Whatever they are, they ain’t from other Galaxies. I’m not for a minute saying they aren’t out there, they are, but, the laws of physics apply across the whole universe and the distances are just too great, even if they could travel close to the speed of light, which they can’t. Impossible.

This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.

In one. Perfect post.

 

[MMA]

This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.

Brilliant post.
It's arrogant of the human species to think that we are the centre of the universe and other beings don't exist that are far far more advanced then us.

 

[TinFoilHat]

This drones / orbs are definitely a future movie topic or the end of times. Or somewhere boringly in between.

Drones are probably the local military playing with new toys before they use them in whichever country is due a 'regime change'.

 

[inbetween]

This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.

The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.

You’re right, but you’re looking at it from our view. Our as in the human race, which has been stated, is as primitive as it gets compared to the potential countless civilisations out there.

Imagine the conversation between us and a visitor. You only sent unmanned craft to your nearest planet? We could get there in minutes.

We only know what we know now. In 500,000 years, you can only imagine what the human race could be like. As it is now, it is about 1 second in.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

One second in and we are only just trying to make robots lifelike if we are to transverse the Milky Way that’s how we will have to go, upload my brain into a Robot and I can live for thousands of years in my metal body and not burn up.

 

[HelloCity]

The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.

Your post is exactly what I’m arguing against. It lacks any sort of ambition and brings only current understandings of science but these understandings are always evolving and would be the opening paragraph of an infinite book a millions years from now.

Are you telling me 200 years ago people sat there thinking flying around the world was an easy thing and just needed a bit of observation? Of course not - you’re looking at it from only a present day lens. You make the same mistake as describing getting to Mars as easy, but again, you’re only looking at it from a present day lens today.

For a civilisation that’s been around a million years, going from one solar system to another is probably pretty easy as well but not for a species that’s only just got off the ground.

Like I say, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know or understand and what will be possible in future would be considered magic to the people of today.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Admit it though any advanced civilisation out there is not going to be sending drones round earth in the frequency they are reported in the news

 

[mexico1970]

If the aliens ever think of coming here and having a go, I hope their intergalactic mode of transport is as good as our trains because they'll never get here.