UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

Usual hot air, misinformation by the “ believers” and conspiracy theorists going nuts.
I’ve read various crazy stuff….but I think it most likely they are either our or Russian drones. Possibly more likely to be ours since many/all of these military bases have anti drone laser weapons (apparently).
 
I’ve read various crazy stuff….but I think it most likely they are either our or Russian drones. Possibly more likely to be ours since many/all of these military bases have anti drone laser weapons (apparently).
Whatever they are, they ain’t from other Galaxies. I’m not for a minute saying they aren’t out there, they are, but, the laws of physics apply across the whole universe and the distances are just too great, even if they could travel close to the speed of light, which they can’t. Impossible.
 
Whatever they are, they ain’t from other Galaxies. I’m not for a minute saying they aren’t out there, they are, but, the laws of physics apply across the whole universe and the distances are just too great, even if they could travel close to the speed of light, which they can’t. Impossible.

These appear to simply be drones from here. Nobody seems to be claiming them. If it was some sort of government or military exercise, then I doubt they're gonna fly them over New Jersey, unless they're being used to detect something they don't want the public to know about.

It could simply be a group of people causing it. Some dickhead with a single drone managed to close down Gatwick airport. I've no doubt a handful of people could do the same flying drones over New Jersey. I'd probably put my money on that.

i kind of disagree with part of your post though..

there could be civilisations out there that took a complete different path of technology and know how manipulate the "laws of physics", or physics as we understand them in 2024 anyway.

Whether people do or dont belive the legitimacy of Bob Lazar, the guy who said he worked back engineering UFOs, he said 35 years ago that these crafts operate by some manipulation of gravitational waves. The odd part is the science community often claimed there's no such thing as gravitational waves, until it was proven about 9 years ago.

The point is, we're not fully clued up on physics if still discovering things. It's completely plausible there's civilisations out there that took a path of invention that could work with physics in a way we cannot.

Even if there is, it doesn't mean they're using it to visit earth.
 
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This drones / orbs are definitely a future movie topic or the end of times. Or somewhere boringly in between.
 
Whatever they are, they ain’t from other Galaxies. I’m not for a minute saying they aren’t out there, they are, but, the laws of physics apply across the whole universe and the distances are just too great, even if they could travel close to the speed of light, which they can’t. Impossible.
That’s a naive way of looking at it. The laws of physics are what we know. They don’t apply to the universe in terms of what a far more advanced civilisation may be. Look at us, 20 years ago we were paying 5p per text. Camera phones were an imaginative concept. Now they are literally life.

Transport. It’s taken a couple of hundred years to be where we are and what have we achieved at its pinnacle, a moon landing decades ago.

There will be countless civilisations out there who were at that point millions of years ago, so who knows what they have mastered?

We are babies.
 
Whatever they are, they ain’t from other Galaxies. I’m not for a minute saying they aren’t out there, they are, but, the laws of physics apply across the whole universe and the distances are just too great, even if they could travel close to the speed of light, which they can’t. Impossible.

This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.
 
This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.
In one. Perfect post.
 
This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.
Brilliant post.
It's arrogant of the human species to think that we are the centre of the universe and other beings don't exist that are far far more advanced then us.
 
This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.
The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.
 
The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.
You’re right, but you’re looking at it from our view. Our as in the human race, which has been stated, is as primitive as it gets compared to the potential countless civilisations out there.

Imagine the conversation between us and a visitor. You only sent unmanned craft to your nearest planet? We could get there in minutes.

We only know what we know now. In 500,000 years, you can only imagine what the human race could be like. As it is now, it is about 1 second in.
 
One second in and we are only just trying to make robots lifelike if we are to transverse the Milky Way that’s how we will have to go, upload my brain into a Robot and I can live for thousands of years in my metal body and not burn up.
 
The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.

Your post is exactly what I’m arguing against. It lacks any sort of ambition and brings only current understandings of science but these understandings are always evolving and would be the opening paragraph of an infinite book a millions years from now.

Are you telling me 200 years ago people sat there thinking flying around the world was an easy thing and just needed a bit of observation? Of course not - you’re looking at it from only a present day lens. You make the same mistake as describing getting to Mars as easy, but again, you’re only looking at it from a present day lens today.

For a civilisation that’s been around a million years, going from one solar system to another is probably pretty easy as well but not for a species that’s only just got off the ground.

Like I say, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know or understand and what will be possible in future would be considered magic to the people of today.
 

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