UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

[dronefromsector7G]

I wonder what they think of pineapple on a pizza?

Bug eyed cunts probably love it

 

[wolviedinho]

I wonder if one could be fitted to a drone for extra fun.

Haha

Say hello to Gary.

 

[TonyM]

Haha

Say hello to Gary.

Richard Gere was just on there about a Gerbil version.

 

[wolviedinho]

Richard Gere was just on there about a Gerbil version.

Gerbil warfare? Ffs that’s all we need.

Drone wankers.

although a gerbil attack might not be a bad idea now the football is shit.

The dips could win the drone/gerbil cup hahah.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Admit it though any advanced civilisation out there is not going to be sending drones round earth in the frequency they are reported in the news

Maybe maybe not, there's stuff knocking about in Pharaoh times that's a bit strange.

I'm of the opinion that our laws of physics wouldn't necessarily apply to another 'body'.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I wonder what they think of pineapple on a pizza?

Can you have an upside down pineapple slice?

That'd be a time to worry ;)

 

[inbetween]

Your post is exactly what I’m arguing against. It lacks any sort of ambition and brings only current understandings of science but these understandings are always evolving and would be the opening paragraph of an infinite book a millions years from now.

Are you telling me 200 years ago people sat there thinking flying around the world was an easy thing and just needed a bit of observation? Of course not - you’re looking at it from only a present day lens. You make the same mistake as describing getting to Mars as easy, but again, you’re only looking at it from a present day lens today.

For a civilisation that’s been around a million years, going from one solar system to another is probably pretty easy as well but not for a species that’s only just got off the ground.

Like I say, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know or understand and what will be possible in future would be considered magic to the people of today.

It's highly unlikely that an advanced civilisation would survive for a million years. Humans have been around for what 20,000 years? History tells us that we'll be long gone due to some disaster or we'll just obliterate ourselves at somepoint. Remember that our intelligence invented nuclear weapons 20 years before it invented rockets that could take us into space.

The real game changer in terms of progress will be AI or a greater intelligence but then there's some risk, especially if the AI world is merged into biology which would be really dangerous. Should we choose to create such a thing? Hopefully not but we probably will. Neanderthal humans were made extinct by a greater intelligence, ie, us...

A truly great intelligence actually wouldn't seek other worlds because why would it? The Earth is a perfect and unique planet capable of sustaining life and we're already perfectly evolved to survive here and yet the irony is we're not protecting it, we're destroying it. And that's how I know that we won't ever succeed in doing these grand things, we're just far too stupid.

 

[Coatigan]

The things you have mentioned though are easy, birds evolved towards flight hundreds of millions of years ago, the answers on flight just required observation and planes are actually very simple things. Travelling across space though is just different and the physical problems are immense.

We can forget travelling beyond our solar system, that will always remain physically impossible unfortunately unless our understanding of physics is wrong. Aliens face the exact same physical problem which is why they cannot exist in the advanced form that science fiction dreams up. If they are out there then where are they?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Even for Mars getting there is relatively easy and we've already done it with unmanned missions but getting there and surviving there as humans is another level of hard. The longest that anybody has survived in space is around 1 year and that's with the knowledge of being able to come back anytime.

With Mars it takes 1 year to get there and then they'd have to wait 1 year for a window to come back, and then it would take another year to get back.... The problem is vast. They won't be in the ISS for that year either, they'll be in the equivalent of a capsule as big as your lounge with all the stress of not being able to escape, and nothing can go wrong.... On a biological level we can't mentally and physically live in that environment for very long.

I'm by no means a skeptic but there are some things that we will never be able to understand.

But it is only 'physically impossible' within our current understanding of physics. Or are you saying we have completed science?

It was physically impossible to split the atom some 80 years ago. The atom didn't even exist another 80 years before that. It was only 12 years ago the higgs boson paricle was successfully collided by acceleration, after 50 years of first coming up with the theory. It was physically impossible for space to exist, with moving planets in it, some 500 years ago, when the theory got you locked up in Europe.

Yeah it takes time for something theoretical to get the technology to make it practical. But we are not at an end of all things theoretical, who knows what new observations and theories will come over the life cycle of the species.

 

[Magicpole]

This logic never works for me. People have been saying this sort of thing forever.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Spain in 2 hours.

- We’ll never be able to travel from England to Australia in a day.

- We’ll never be able to fly to the moon.

Truth is, you can’t comprehend what you don’t know. All our current technology today was at one point impossible for prior generations. Even people who died just 100 years ago (relatively nothing) would be floored by some of the stuff they’d see today if they’d been shown it back then.

We need to keep in mind that we’re actually a very young species. We’ve never even set foot on the closest planet to us in our own solar system. By comparison there could be species out there that have existed for millions, if not billions of years. They’d be capable of things that would appear like magic to us today. I’d imagine that the distance of space is something an ancient civilisation would have solved long ago - whether travelling through dimensions, wormholes or god knows what else.

Not the same mate. Not the same.

 

[Magicpole]

That’s a naive way of looking at it. The laws of physics are what we know. They don’t apply to the universe in terms of what a far more advanced civilisation may be. Look at us, 20 years ago we were paying 5p per text. Camera phones were an imaginative concept. Now they are literally life.

Transport. It’s taken a couple of hundred years to be where we are and what have we achieved at its pinnacle, a moon landing decades ago.

There will be countless civilisations out there who were at that point millions of years ago, so who knows what they have mastered?

We are babies.

Ok.