UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

Bigga said:
Mate, you're literally claiming nothing is superior to a Human's knowledge... in a universe, no, a galaxy... sorry a planet we've never left to set foot on another, nevermind discover another life form!

In a universe with likely TRILLIONS of planets (and billions is enough) that we know best!!

Okay, buddy.
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No I’m not. You require a certain amount of intelligence to know what we know. That in no way says others couldn’t. What I am saying is they won’t get able to travel that fast for the same reason we can’t. That it.
 
Bigga said:
I know physics isn't the same as science and technology as we speak because 'boundaries'.

Those 'boundaries' are only from what we know. We've come on in leaps and bounds in the last 100-150 years, which means we are learning as time goes on. We, as a species, are quick to learn.

Trillions of other planets which impossible numbers of other intellect have very good odds on learning and knowing things at a better rate and in a better way.

It's impossible to argue that theory based, solely, on our own limitations.
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They aren't our limitations, they are laws of physics, It isn't based on theory it's based on tested fact.We can't learn them out of existence.
 
blueparrot said:
Took me longer than it should to work that out :)
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It’s takes us a bit longer now, doesn’t mean we don’t get there. Means we head off into rooms for no apparent reason, but as soon as you get your arse back in your chair, it comes back why you went there. Decide you didn’t need it enough to get up twice, wait patiently for someone else to go into the same room and ask them to bring it through. As if it just occurred to you. I’ve sat squinty at the telly for hours rather than get up twice to get my glasses.

I wish I was making that up.
 
Magicpole said:
No I’m not. You require a certain amount of intelligence to know what we know. That in no way says others couldn’t. What I am saying is they won’t get able to travel that fast for the same reason we can’t. That it.
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Okay. I'm not trying to argue with you.

I just happen to disagree.

For me, a different set of circumstances in a different environment working with a different set of intellectual species that has a different outlook and results to our own understanding of the existence we see would yield different results.

Why is it impossible to have physics work differently elsewhere and therefore dealing with the mathematics of mass and speed hasn't been solved? We cannot possibly know and to assume to know would be foolish.

But, cool thoughts and chat.
 
blueparrot said:
They aren't our limitations, they are laws of physics, It isn't based on theory it's based on tested fact.We can't learn them out of existence.
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Again. Different planet, different intellect working with different elements comes up with a different theory of physics as it relates to that planet/ existence.

How can you know the unknowns but that they are 'known unknowns' only?
 
Bigga said:
Okay. I'm not trying to argue with you.

I just happen to disagree.

For me, a different set of circumstances in a different environment working with a different set of intellectual species that has a different outlook and results to our own understanding of the existence we see would yield different results.

Why is it impossible to have physics work differently elsewhere and therefore dealing with the mathematics of mass and speed hasn't been solved? We cannot possibly know and to assume to know would be foolish.

But, cool thoughts and chat.
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“Why is it impossible to have physics work differently elsewhere and therefore dealing with the mathematics of mass and speed hasn't been solved? We cannot possibly know and to assume to know would be foolish.”

We know the laws apply the same everywhere we have looked. That’s why.

Edit: I wasn’t arguing either. We were engaged in a robust discourse of the topic. Enjoyed it too.
 
Bigga said:
Again. Different planet, different intellect working with different elements comes up with a different theory of physics as it relates to that planet/ existence.

How can you know the unknowns but that they are 'known unknowns' only?
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Different planet. Same physics. That’s it. Might be vastly advanced, doesn’t matter, it can’t be done.
 
Magicpole said:
Different planet. Same physics. That’s it. Might be vastly advanced, doesn’t matter, it can’t be done.
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So, you're assuming that life, with the chemicals and gases that make up the composite of our planet is on every planet that has an 'atmosphere'? Who's to say what kind of 'atmosphere' allows the same effect on metals they'll have against what we have? Who says that the life there doesn't grow 15 ft or 1 inch, fly and both have vastly superior workings of mathematics and science as we know it?

We haven't landed on another planet in any other solar system to test any man made theories. Agreed? We don't know the effect of their sun on their elements on their planet. Agreed? And we don't know the weight of gravity on their planet since we've never set foot another anywhere else. Agreed or not?

So, basically, we don't know at this stage of our existence how all the mix of those components come together anywhere else. Like we don't even know the workings of a proposed 'black hole' which, literally, bends the possible theory of all elements out of whack... cos we have no idea what it is, where it possibly goes or what possibly happens in and around it.

It could, very possibly, be similar to a light refraction, but in space.

Honestly, I don't see how you can extrapolate our thinking here to a 'known unknown'.
 
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