UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

blueparrot said:
The only way to move any object with any mass faster than the speed of light would be if we discovered the theory of general relativity is wrong. Any alternative theory would have to do what that theory has done. So thats every prediction made using GR has been proved by all the subsequent discoveries throughout the universe, and as well as explaining everything we know a new theory would need to be tested the same way GR has been.
Could it happen, I ‘m not qualified to say but seems to me after 100 years of it predicting and fitting everything we’ve seen and discovered of the known universe and every science and technology advancement it’s quite likely e really does equal mc squared.
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It may well be a locked in law with no way around it. Not denying that. I’m just pointing out that our understanding is always changing. If an alien race is a million years ahead of us there understanding will be very different to ours, incomprehensibley so.

Our understanding in a million years will be very different too. We may have worked out how to manipulate gravity and create warp. We may be able to create worm holes etc.

By the same note. We / they may not have.
 
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grunge said:
It may well be a locked in law with no way around it. Not denying that. I’m just pointing out that our understanding is always changing. If an alien race is a million years ahead of us there understanding will be very different to ours

Our understanding in a million years will be very different too.
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That's if civilisations can last that long. Maybe they all burn themselves out before getting anywhere near "millions of years ahead". I can't see us lasting that long.
 
Magicpole said:
understanding? So you’re saying we don’t understand what relativity means and have got it wrong. It’s all a bit airy fairy, albeit interesting. I’m all for out the box thinking, asking questions, trying to find answers. We have found the answer to moving faster than light, it may not suit or be exciting. Let’s face it, nobody is getting anywhere the galaxy over, unless there are nearby planets inhabited by intelligent life. We can imagine anything, that’s why we are a species that has got where we are.
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No I am obviously not saying we don't understand it or got it wrong. I am saying it is not all there ever will be to understand.
 
blueparrot said:
The only way to move any object with any mass faster than the speed of light would be if we discovered the theory of general relativity is wrong. Any alternative theory would have to do what that theory has done. So thats every prediction made using GR has been proved by all the subsequent discoveries throughout the universe, and as well as explaining everything we know a new theory would need to be tested the same way GR has been.
Could it happen, I ‘m not qualified to say but seems to me after 100 years of it predicting and fitting everything we’ve seen and discovered of the known universe and every science and technology advancement it’s quite likely e really does equal mc squared.
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Or if we discovered or rather uncovered something else that can co-exist with those principles.
 
grunge said:
I mentioned 130 years ago because an entirely new field of physics was dicovered. There may well be loads more fields we are not currently aware of that fundamentally change our current understanding.

I guess we had better tell all the physicists in the world to stop looking into new things if we know everything already though.
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The physicists will keep on looking though no matter what the naysayers say a million years from now they will be looking back at this century wondering why we closed our minds off except for those intelligent individuals studying physics/quantum physics, scientists with an open mind hoping to find the answers.
A million years from now we won’t need a rocket ship we will have evolved into a drone and I’ll download myself into the shell and coast myself round the universe not needing any food or fuel because as a machine I will live for thousands of years or something like that
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
The physicists will keep on looking though no matter what the naysayers say a million years from now they will be looking back at this century wondering why we closed our minds off except for those intelligent individuals studying physics/quantum physics, scientists with an open mind hoping to find the answers.
A million years from now we won’t need a rocket ship we will have evolved into a drone and I’ll download myself into the shell and coast myself round the universe not needing any food or fuel because as a machine I will live for thousands of years or something like that
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Your drone is still matter that can’t exceed the speed of light, unless you think Einstein was wrong.
 
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