UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Well it looks like they are all trying to close us down,just win CL this season and fuck it,I'm done with all this shite.

Liccle Citeh eh who'd have thought.......get fucked you bastards
 
It's not that you mentioned Trump -- I get the comparison -- it's that you said, "You see it with Trump who, in essence, is actually not far from the truth when he labels stuff as Fake News" which is a bad take, whether you were being flippant or not.

I worked in MSM too and the blanket dismissal of its value by those MSM criticizes shouldn't be surprising. My problem is that dismissal is done so often by those too lazy, stupid or ignorant to read critically, expand their own sourcing and think for themselves. It's simply easier to say "it's all tosh" -- and it's especially easy when what you read in MSM doesn't comport with your worldview, whether fact or opinion.

So when you as a journalist imply an agenda so broad you suggest dismissing the MSM as a whole, it gets on my tits a little. Whether Trump or someone else is saying it, crying "Fake news!" IS far from the truth.

It's also a Brit/Yank thing -- some of the UK rags (as in papers) are quite astounding in their poor quality. But then you have some outstanding ones too.

Good post, and it raises an interesting question I've always wanted to ask a US based journalist.

I'm talking with broad strokes here, but please try to see the logic in my question.

Broadly speaking, I would say with mainstream politics, the US is to the right of the UK.

Of course there are exceptions, but broadly speaking the Dems are to the right of Labour and GOP to the right of the Tories.

But the trends with our media are the exact opposite.

The UK press is overwhelmingly positioned to the right of the US media.

The UK mainstream media is dominated by the right-wing; the Mail, Sun, Telegraph, ITV, Sky News etc.

But the US media is generally dominated by the left - NYT, Washington Post, NBC, CNN etc.

What would you put that down to?

Surely, logic would suggest MSM would cater to the political persuasions of its market?
 
Fucking hell the attack dogs are every where,we need to really back the team at every game,they are determined to make us lose concentration,tragic
 
"The accusation of financial irregularities are entirely false. The Club’s published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record." FFP compliance is just about our accounts isn't it ?
Of course... you can fail FFP under current UEFA regulations but these are not law. I may be reading too much into City’s statement, but it reads to me that their opening shot is ... our accounts have been audited and filed properly within the legal and regulatory record, nothing we have declared is illegal.
 
what is this mysterious united way you speak of

LOL. I threw this at a rag mate once and he said not one United fan has ever used that term. Took all of twenty seconds on Twitter to leave him dead in the water!
 
No point in falling out amongst yourselves lads. Your owners will have this thoroughly under control. It's not as if they are naive chancers or something.
They are shrewd billionaire businessmen and will know international law like the back of their hands. Imagine billionaire business men not being allowed to spend their own money on their club. None of this ffp makes sense. UEFA are probably shitting themselves and are making a gesture to pacify the established clubs but I doubt very much they want to take on Abudhabi in a legal battle. It's not going to happen.
A slap on the wrist and that's it. All done.
Not falling out..
I just think City have been very smart with that statement... ensuring everybody understands from the outset that despite what FFP/Der Spiegel/UEFA say, we have done nothing that is illegal in filing our accounts.
 
The time as come as I have said a few times, is to tell UEFA, that we will now see them in court and start to sue them for all the bad press they have given us as a club. Let them know that it will be damages running into the £10's of million. We will be suing both in the British courts and the Swiss courts, if the hackers are found to be from America we will also be suing them in the American courts, where the damages could well bankrupt UEFA, because they will most certainly award us damages running into the £10's million. Plus we wan the e-mail address of the hackers, as we will also be suing them in court as well.
 
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