UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[mayo31]

But would you want half the team banned and going to united so they could win the league ala Billy Meredith.

Yes of course I would. Why not.......

 

[mac]

But would you want half the team banned and going to united so they could win the league ala Billy Meredith.

why would the rags want our players anyhow. It’s common knowledge that their team is better than ours.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Generally no, Switzerland hold to the same legal principle as other European countries in that legality cannot be enforced through illegality. CAS are a Swiss court. There are exceptions made but there's no reason that any should be made here that I'm aware of.

So is the thinking that if City escalate this legally to CAS, CAS would rule on the inability of UEFA to "enforce" its own "rules", even as as a closed organization?

 

[Marvin]

I can't wait for Saturday and the game. That is the only way to respond. CTID.

 

[nmc]

Just caught the tail end of an article on SSN saying that Chelsea will still have the transfer ban applied whilst they are in the process of appealing it. Looks like they have changed the rules again.

So with FIFA you are guilty until proven innocent. If Chelsea miss a transfer window and then get cleared there will be a compensation claim for damages I suspect !

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Just caught the tail end of an article on SSN saying that Chelsea will still have the transfer ban applied whilst they are in the process of appealing it. Looks like they have changed the rules again.

Unfortunately this particular appeal falls at the first hurdle, in that they’re not from Spain!

 

[Mon Autre]

So with FIFA you are guilty until proven innocent. If Chelsea miss a transfer window and then get cleared there will be a compensation claim for damages I suspect !

They've already been found guilty and the appeal is just an attempt to get the benefit of another transfer window in before the punishment kicks in. Allowing them to do that and lessen the effect of the punishment would also be unfair.

 

[aguero93:20]

So is the thinking that if City escalate this legally to CAS, CAS would rule on the inability of UEFA to "enforce" its own "rules", even as as a closed organization?

Yeah, sort of, UEFA are bound by Swiss and EU law in that regard, closed organisation or no, so once it went to CAS, they'd essentially have to make a case that justified any sanction (in line with precedent and consistent with their own rules at the time of any alleged offence*) without using any illegally obtained evidence unless CAS admitted it, which would be completely out of character for the court**, so I can't see UEFA wanting it to escalate.

*This is why I thought we should have appealed the original sanction in 2014 to CAS, being solely an arbitrary court across different sports they don't work from a single set of laws with primacy, but they do hold all organisations to their own laws and standards incredibly strictly. If UEFA had moved the goalposts or bent their own rules to punish us CAS would have looked poorly upon it.
**considering they've previously had a lengthy debate about whether match reports were admissible in an unpaid bonuses case, they are quite strict in that regard.

 

[The blue phantom]

Neither am I, but it's amazing how much hysteria just writing Trump can cause these days!!

A bit like writing City on Rawk!

Folk just don't like Racist mate, and Cvnts either :)

 

[petrusha]

This suggests that CAS is sometimes prepared to admit illegally obtained evidence: http://www.cisarbitration.com/2018/...idence-in-the-court-of-arbitration-for-sport/