UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[SilverFox2]

So whats the general thinking then at the minute regarding the decision.

One way or another it is going to go off big time isn't it.

On one hand we have the behind the scenes pressure from certain clubs forcing UEFA to punish us, and we have what is nothing less than corporate reputational damage being carried out against us and a smear campaign to make not just our owners but our club and CFG as a whole look bad in the eyes of any potential future investment, and have this message broadcast loud and wide in the UK media

Then we have our owners and club who have categorically denied any wrong doing and state they have provided evidence to back it all up

So, do we really think that UEFA will not tow the line of the clubs that are looking to not just stop us but to to actually bury us completely in the eyes of the world

.....or do we think that UEFA will make a statement saying that no wrong-doing has been found ! Which if were to happen I believe we should get UEFA to make an official statement on the matter that leaves no open questions left behind and then it is up to our club to take it any further to make public who was behind the smear campaign

UEFA are run in order to look after the cartel - nothing more, nothing less. UEFA will be sat around thinking do we go against the cartel clubs who want PSG and City out of the equation and risk the backlash from the cartel, or do we punish City regardless of what evidence they have provided, knowing that we (City) would then fight it through the courts which would surely ultimately end up with us having to air all the dirty tactics used

I just get the feeling that UEFA will not upset the apple cart of the cartel clubs and will punish us, getting the cartel clubs the end product they wanted as it would be splashed all over the media and they can then rub their hands saying job done

another worrying scenario, albeit a somewhat doomsday scenario, is that say we did take UEFA to court after being punished and it got to the point that FFP was shown to be a restriction on trade etc, this could destroy any reputation that UEFA has as an organisation to run football in europe - paving the way for the cartel to form a european league that they would have control over

I think UEFA are in a really difficult dilemma with all this

I think that they visited City with arbitration in mind but found Mr K uncooperative with him possibly suggesting they talk with the other Clubs regarding certain evidence ADUG hold that will likely come out if they choose to find City guilty and City obviously take things further.
Perhaps this has caused a split amongst the cartel which is causing the delay?
City have had years to accumulate real evidence against all Clubs as well as uefa so risking this may make them think twice.
Just a hopeful ending to proceedings.

 

[laserblue]

From the Goal article on tebas........

Both clubs have signed a plethora of marquee players, allowing them to challenge and often usurp established clubs at the top in their respective countries.


How many is a plethora?

In a nutshell, a clear admission why this bitter and tearful fascist twat keeps getting upset about City (and PSG).

 

[CharliesRightPeg]

But where is the fairness and balance. The Guardian has made no attempt to balance the comments or put them into context. Why is there no response from City or PSG? The comments of Tebas do not exist in a vacuum. This sort of distorted reporting is why very few people in the UK have any trust in the mainstream media. Since when did the Guardian become an organisation which is happy to promote the views of a neo nazi totally unchallenged? What Tebas has said is defamatory and needs to be rebutted by the club. The UK media outlets who have repeated his libellous comments can also be sued. And if we sue them they will have to prove the comments made (that our finanacial figures are false) are true. Can you imagine what would happen if a leading figure accused for example a leading retailer like John Lewis of producing false statements. City do not do enough to protect our reputation.

The Guardian has been named in leaks as part of a network promoting certain players and teams for a group of agencies involved in match fixing, player price fixing and various other bent practices, apparently

It's not always the most trusted paper when it comes to footy

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Big Yank business owns America and our competitors are among the biggest, but we will have to wait and see

Our American club enemies are not even in the same pecking order as our owner/owners.

It was Sheikh Mansour sat next to Trump last year at a summit.

Abu Dhabi and the Emirates are on speed dial.

 

[BobbyBoy]

That depends on the country, and UK law is very unusual in it's placing the burden of proof on the defendant. Given Tebas is in Spain, talking in Spain to a Spanish newspaper, you're probably going to have to try and get him under Spanish law and IIRC last time this came up people worked out it's almost impossible to successfully sue someone for libel or defamation in Spain.

The Guardian reported he made the comments yesterday while in the UK promoting the launch of La Liga TV.

 

[nmc]

The Guardian reported he made the comments yesterday while in the UK promoting the launch of La Liga TV.

Well I hope La Liga TV is as bad as City TV? If that’s possible.

 

[Thomas Hearns]

The Guardian has been named in leaks as part of a network promoting certain players and teams for a group of agencies involved in match fixing, player price fixing and various other bent practices, apparently

It's not always the most trusted paper when it comes to footy

It’s never been trusted full stop.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I think that they visited City with arbitration in mind but found Mr K uncooperative with him possibly suggesting they talk with the other Clubs regarding certain evidence ADUG hold that will likely come out if they choose to find City guilty and City obviously take things further.
Perhaps this has caused a split amongst the cartel which is causing the delay?
City have had years to accumulate real evidence against all Clubs as well as uefa so risking this may make them think twice.
Just a hopeful ending to proceedings.

I think you're probably close about UEFA having an idea of what might happen if they go in heavily against City, with any other skeletons to release, and an inevitable date with CAS.
Best case scenario for UEFA is probably annulling the recommendations due to flaws in the process, removing those responsible from the investigatory committee (with bonus/payoff/other role to keep quiet), and then issuing a statement that nothing was proved or disproved.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

I thought the transference of the case from the Investigatory Body to the secondary chamber was the trigger that initiated a sufficiently guilty case requiring punishment to be set by said Judicial body. By such action is not the die already cast?
From this point forward we are either guilty as charged, in which case we will seek to put the case before CAS (which is UEFA's oft MO)
Or we have no case to answer, through the fact there is no evidence to support such allegations, or that the investigatory body failed to follow investigatory protocols and/or acted outside of their remit.
The club are adamant of no wrongdoing outside of the transgressions already agreed which lead to the original "pinch". Should we not believe them? In which case any CAS referral should be successful. If the latter we should seek a suitably contrite statement exonerating the club in full from UEFA with regard to these matters.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Our American club enemies are not even in the same pecking order as our owner/owners.

It was Sheikh Mansour sat next to Trump last year at a summit.

Abu Dhabi and the Emirates are on speed dial.

While Livarpool are sponsored by money launderers for Iran, a country with long established, friendly relations with the US!