UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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That article claims Sheikh Mansour has put billions into City, is this true?

I recall reading last season the figure was at around £1.3billion.
 
julio jordio said:
Why would I want to purposely wind fellow blues up?
I want the best for my club just like you do. I just want people to be better informed.
It’s typical of this internet fan generation that they dismiss any story or opinion that you do not like but pur over ones you do.
‘Chatting shit’ ‘ignore him’ ‘wum’ it’s embarrassing mate, have a decent debate.
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I gave you two chances to explain why you would be able to confirm any of it, more than anyone else could... and you provided nada. Your debating skills are seriously lacking from what I can see.

Imagine saying that and moaning when people say: "I can confirm this guy is a wum".
 
just a little reminder



"Manchester City welcomes the opening of a formal Uefa investigation as an opportunity to bring to an end the speculation resulting from the illegal hacking and out of context publication of City emails".

"The club's published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record
 
hammocity said:
I think they have done this to destabilise the recruitment process, potentially choosing a Club that is touted to get a CL ban may just be the deciding factor for a player to go elsewhere. Bent fuckers, it’s not even punitive in our case, it’s based purely on an historical event that has no bearing of where we are now. Restraints should be in place to prevent another Bolton or to stop someone like Simon Jordan having to almost give his club away because he was annually doing his financial nuts that ultimately cost him £50m. There is no rhyme or reason to this ban other than jealousy and the old cartels collective desire to piss on “little” City from a great height.
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The mad thing about FFP is that City under Shinawatra would have met FFP at that time, will whilst we were nearly going into administration. Fucking flawed, totally biased against City rule. Mind you that’s exactly where they would like us to be now and not a threat to anyone.
 
The euphoria of the title win has very quickly given way to the paranoia of the NYT. We can all rage on about the injustice and self-interest underlying FFP, and, if necessary, the club have the right to challenge the legitimacy of the regulations in court, but at the moment we simply have a report (from a very reputable paper) that UEFA are being asked to ban City from the CL. If this is the case, I think such a ban is unlikely. CAS have shown themselves not to be sympathetic to such bans. AC Milan were banned for a year by UEFA for "violations" of FFP but, on appeal, CAS found the penalty "disproportionate" and called for a different sanction, even though this was Milan's second offence, as Milan's financial position was much better than it had been. If City did violate FFP (and it seems a very big "if") it was at least five years ago and our financial position since has been as good as any club's anywhere. UEFA would have a very difficult time explaining its motives in sanctioning City at all, especially as it may provoke a very long, costly and damaging court case challenging the central concept at the heart of FFP. I am still of the opinion that if there are any sleeping dogs they are best allowed to lie.
 
julio jordio said:
I couldn’t care less whether you believe me or not. Like most I’m enjoying the moment and now can’t wait for Saturday. It’s an amazing time to be a blue.
I’m all for fighting our corner but on this occasion we haven’t got a leg to stand on. As I said, hopefully the punishment isn’t too severe but don’t just dismiss me when you don’t know the facts.
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But thats problem WE don`t know the facts and neither do you so stop talking bollocks until such times that the full details are made to the club.
 
There's no point trying to discredit the NY Times through links with Liverpool's owners. There is a UEFA investigation ongoing.

What have we learned?
  • The investigators are about to refer their case to the Adjudicatory Chamber and recommend a ban of at least one year. Well we could expect that.
  • According to the people with knowledge of the investigation, City’s punishment most likely will be linked to an accusation that it provided misleading statements in resolving an earlier case, as well as false statements to licensing authorities in England, and not over the true value of the sponsorship agreements.
That last point is just journalists opinion, but I have no reason to doubt it.

I interpret that as a weakening of UEFA's case. They seem to have given up pursuing the angle that City have inflated the sponsorship deals and are now looking more at the alleged operation to deceive and defy UEFA. I do not on the other like the involvement of false statements to licensing authorities in England as it widens the implications of the investigation.
 
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As I see it some of them want a ban so some musn't and wanting and risking the consequences of a ban are different things. Plus there is still an IF found guilty.

"With no vote in such cases, the final say lies with him but several of his colleagues are understood to have firmly expressed the view at a recent meeting that a season-long ban would be a suitable punishment if City are found guilty. "
 
blueparrot said:
As I see it some of them want a ban so some musn't and wanting and risking the consequences of a ban are different things. Plus there is still an IF found guilty.

"With no vote in such cases, the final say lies with him but several of his colleagues are understood to have firmly expressed the view at a recent meeting that a season-long ban would be a suitable punishment if City are found guilty. "
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Exactly - a Dan Roan piece on the BBC website headlines UEFA want us banned..........then starts with IF found guilty...............have we started winning again and spoiling everybodies party. Fuck 'em. They won't ban us next season for starters coz we will just appeal to the Court of Arbitration in Sport and if there is any hope of us winning we will get the competition stopped whilst matters are resolved or devalue it by being banned and be shouting that from the roof tops.
 
if we were banned then surely it opens up even further legal cases from players, agents, etc that their client is misisng out on bonuses etc? also the loss of revenue for city on something that wouldnt be 100% conclusive to prove?
 
Jazzman said:
We should give this pile of shite article the attention it deserves namely nothing. Fuck you NYT
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It's balanced journalism in my opinion. The journalists one genuine insight or contribution is that UEFA are not pursuing the inflated sponsorship angle any more but more the 'deception angle'.
 
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