If you that's the case why didnt the club take the lower punishment they were offered a couple of months ago?We all know what’s probably going to happen.
UEFA will get us at least a 1 year ban with some fine and they’ll see that as a triumph. This will then open the door for PL to try and punish us. Surely they have to do their OWN investigations ??????
A few of those defaming us today say UEFA has further damning evidence in their possession of our guilt, that we blatantly violated FFP,leaving financial footprints.
Like i said i had not heard this information before today.
Feels like UEFA are putting it out there now through their MSM sycophants .
They know what is hid in the dark ,will be seen in the light in the legal Courts.
Sorry i am not providing links to umpteen articles.
Based on your perception are you confident this ruling will be overturned?If you that's the case why didnt the club take the lower punishment they were offered a couple of months ago?
The club seem extremely confident they have enough evidence for this ruling to be overturned
The emails shouldn't be admissible evidence and I assume that will be part of City's case, which may be accepted by CAS or a court whereas UEFA have only one goal in mind and don't care how they achieve it.
Ultimately we may have to go to real courts and have the regulations we have been purported to have broken declared illegal due to the fact - and I believe it is fact - that they are anti-competitive and nothing more than veiled protectionism. Win that case btw and I suspect we could then sue UEFA an ruin the fuckers and if there is evidence that they conspired with other clubs, take those bastards to the cleaners too.
I wonder what Abu Dhabi's secret service or equivalent can hack?
There were reports that Alexsander Ceferin tried to get City to accept guilt in return for a weak sanction.
If this is true there are two consequences:
1) City are very confident of their position,
2) More imprortantly, where does that leave the UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber? It means the process is not evidence based, and the Chamber is not primary. That is surely an abuse of process and UEFA just make it up as they go along?
However after all that has gone in, how much do you trust the sporting authorities? This of course relies on the Ceferin reports being accurate. He may just have been taking in a game.
I didn't know city had 171 players on our books ))Couldn't agree more.
FT article from late 2018: https://www.ft.com/content/738537c8-d1f5-11e8-a9f2-7574db66bcd5
HIghlights:
HMRC yielded £332 million in extra tax since 2015 - by tackling non-compliance in football industry (so maybe c£600 million undeclared income)
Inquiries into 171 players still "open" as at October 2018.
This is the crux of it for me.
Did someone in the UAE (i.e., HH) top up the sponsorship funds? Maybe, maybe not. The emails seem to suggest they did.
But if that money was invested in each of the sponsors and then paid into City's accounts directly from Etihad, Etisalat, Aabar, etc. (as also suggested by the emails), I don't see how UEFA have much of a case.
It's not like they'll have any access to those companies' accounts/bank records as they have no jurisdiction over them. And in the very unlikely scenario they even asked to see them, they will have been told to fuck off.
So, all that matters is that if City stated X million as Aabar sponsorship revenue, then City's own bank records need to show that same X million arriving directly from Aabar. And the leaked emails suggest they were very careful about ensuring that happened.
Now obviously, if City's accounts show 25% of that X million came from Aabar and 75% came from elsewhere (i.e., ADUG, Sheikh Mansour), then we're bang to rights. But we surely wouldn't be appealing if it was that cut and dried.
So, my own hypothesis is that UEFA "know" we have circumvented FFP; the emails show it. But they have no other proof. And even if those emails were admissible, they could theoretically be explained away as meaning something else.
Rather than allowing us to get away with what they see as blatant "cheating", and knowing that the evidence they have won't stand up in CAS (or court), they have sought to inflict massive reputational damage in the hope that some of that damage will stick even when the punishment is overturned.
This ties in with the rumours that UEFA were desperate to agree a deal with City that saw us accept guilt with a token slap on the wrist. That suggests they weren't at all confident that their "evidence" would stand up to intense scrutiny.
When City told them they weren't interested, UEFA went for the only other option left to them — nuclear reputational damage. This explains why the punishment is so excessive; they know it won't be upheld, but they had to go in hard for the world to take notice and make at least some of the mud stick.
That's my theory anyway!
I'll admit I'm no expert in this matter however after reading lots of different articles and people's views(not just on here) it seems Uefa are basing this ban on hacked emails.Based on your perception are you confident this ruling will be overturned?