UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[The Colonel]

Duvet not have to deliver their opinion on our guilt/innocence at that stage?

Just a blanket statement is likely.

 

[slbsn]

I think this is not what the resident legal experts said. I understood CAS would judge the case completely anew. @projectriver ?

CAS will go through the whole matter de novo (afresh) based on both sides' submissions and the evidence presented. They will consider the application of the rules including limitations, the relevant rules and, if it finds UEFA were entitled to review matters from 2012-2016 (City say UEFA were not for a number of reasons), it will consider the substantive matters ie whether City did, in fact, breach the rules. I agree we will probably not get a full view of the judgment until some weeks after the summary of the decision.

 

[Citizen Green]

CAS will go through the whole matter de novo (afresh) based on both sides' submissions and the evidence presented. They will consider the application of the rules including limitations, the relevant rules and, if it finds UEFA were entitled to review matters from 2012-2016 (City say UEFA were not for a number of reasons), it will consider the substantive matters ie whether City did, in fact, breach the rules. I agree we will probably not get a full view of the judgment until some weeks after the summary of the decision.

Are you of the opinion that UEFA have additional information other than the leaks given their lawyers have obviously advised them to pursue this in court?

 

[slbsn]

Are you of the opinion that UEFA have additional information other than the leaks given their lawyers have obviously advised them to pursue this in court?

Suspect its the leaks plus the information already in their possession from before 2016/17. And obviously anything else shared in the appeal process.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I just don’t see how you can say that Tolm. I don’t think City or UEFA have any inkling whatsoever. We may be confident in our evidence but let’s be honest, OJ Simpson was bang to rights and a court let him walk free.

And amazingly he didn’t play for the scum or the dippers

 

[Centurions]

Are you of the opinion that UEFA have additional information other than the leaks given their lawyers have obviously advised them to pursue this in court?

They banned us for 2 years plus the fine, there was no way once we took it to CAS that UEFA would back down and say 'You know what? Forget about it.' They're not pursuing anything, they're frantically defending their actions.

 

[BringBackSwales]

CAS are not there to determine our supposed quilt they will judge on the process
A short explanation of the verdict will be published with a comprehensive one at a later date

I don’t think that’s correct is it? They aren’t just looking at the process, they are looking at the facts, and giving their view on whether we actually breached the rules. If we are not guilty of anything, but uefa have followed the correct process, then we are still not guilty

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Just a blanket statement is likely.

It'll be bunkem.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

It'll be bunkem

Cant you just give it a rest.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Cant you just give it a rest.

I'll sleep on that one.

 

[HalfwayUpTheKippax]

Duvet not have to deliver their opinion on our guilt/innocence at that stage?

These puns are getting me down.

 

[hilts]

These puns are getting me eiderdown.

 

[jimharri]

Okay folks, let's stick to the subject of the thread and avoid bringing up old, controversial cases from America. They have nothing to do with our case.

 

[Proy]

I just don’t see how you can say that Tolm. I don’t think City or UEFA have any inkling whatsoever. We may be confident in our evidence but let’s be honest, OJ Simpson was bang to rights and a court let him walk free.

That is something of a naive point of view

 

[@BluePhil8]

That is something of a naive point of view

I think you’re naive if you’re expecting complete exoneration from CAS. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[KS55]

Let’s hope Soriano doesn’t have the same outcome as El Chapo...

As a result of CAS's ruling, Soriano was last seen digging his way out of the Etihad.

 

[KS55]

It'll be bunkem.

And will cover our entire rap sheet.

 

[M18CTID]

Suspect its the leaks plus the information already in their possession from before 2016/17. And obviously anything else shared in the appeal process.

I can’t see how info already in their possession from years ago can add weight to their case. That is what led to the settlement agreement in 2014 and they can’t just decide to use that to further punish us can they? Surely it has to be fresh info they weren’t aware of at the time, ie: the e-mails in the DS articles, plus there could be something else that we’re not aware of.

 

[Blue Mist]

Okay folks, let's stick to the subject of the thread and avoid bringing up old, controversial cases from America. They have nothing to do with our case.

I've read that 3 times and I am still trying to work out the quilt pun that is hidden in there.

 

[slbsn]

I can’t see how info already in their possession from years ago can add weight to their case. That is what led to the settlement agreement in 2014 and they can’t just decide to use that to further punish us can they? Surely it has to be fresh info they weren’t aware of at the time, ie: the e-mails in the DS articles, plus there could be something else that we’re not aware of.

We are speculating but its perfectly plausible that old information when added to DS information takes on a different complexion. If nothing else, if they tell a different story to each other that is likely to form some basis of UEFA's argument. But guessing