UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Mancini Manus Domini]

United think this crisis will be relatively good for them and they will be able to snap up top players at reduced transfer fees. Time will tell and debt levels could count against them and Spurs. However, if Utd were to really struggle there would probably be a queue of multi-billionaires willing to buy them, especially with a World Cup coming up in the Middle East in 2022 when the mega rich can show flaunt their assets.

Match day staff are being paid until the end of the season and Utd's season ticket and memorabilia sales are likely to hold up better than most Clubs because of the strength of their brand. If Utd's income really suffers then the likelihood is that everyone other Club's including our own will. Even Real Madrid and Barcelona are tightening their belts. I am not sure we can expect Sheikh Mansour to write blank cheques and football will need to return next season unless its impossible to do so on safety grounds.

If this season is cancelled won't they suffer from reduced sponsorship with another season outside the Champions League?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

If this season is cancelled won't they suffer from reduced sponsorship with another season outside the Champions League?

They could well do unless the clause is covered by exceptional circumstances. However, if the League was cancelled (and not null and void) then they might only need a top 5 finish and they are fifth (with us currently banned from the Champs League for the next 2 years).

There are some Blues on this forum thinking we will do better out of this crisis than Utd whilst saying they won't renew season cards etc. are ignoring Utd's popularity across the globe and are taking Sheikh Mansour's investment for granted.

 

[waspish]

They could well do unless the clause is covered by exceptional circumstances. However, if the League was cancelled (and not null and void) then they might only need a top 5 finish and they are fifth (with us currently banned from the Champs League for the next 2 years).

There are some Blues on this forum thinking we will do better out of this crisis than Utd whilst saying they won't renew season cards etc. are ignoring Utd's popularity across the globe and are taking Sheikh Mansour's investment for granted.

One thing I think is for certain Mansour will won’t his football team to stay one the best in the world so I expect he will invest again after not putting a penny in the team/club for around four seasons.

 

[Mancini Manus Domini]

They could well do unless the clause is covered by exceptional circumstances. However, if the League was cancelled (and not null and void) then they might only need a top 5 finish and they are fifth (with us currently banned from the Champs League for the next 2 years).

There are some Blues on this forum thinking we will do better out of this crisis than Utd whilst saying they won't renew season cards etc. are ignoring Utd's popularity across the globe and are taking Sheikh Mansour's investment for granted.

If the season was cancelled it is much more likely to be declared null and void rather than the current positions being validated. How can Aston Villa be relegated when they had a game in hand.

I also believe that UEFA will have to allow us in next season's Champions League if we have not yet had our CAS hearing. The subsequent damages we could potentially claim would be a nightmare for them. If we were actually barred pending the appeal then a null and void season would see Arsenal get a Champions League spot, having finished 5th the previous season.

 

[Newman Noggs]

If we were actually barred pending the appeal then a null and void season would see Arsenal get a Champions League spot, having finished 5th the previous season.

Amazing coincidence that, whatever happens to this season, either united or arsenal would benefit from City being banned.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Amazing coincidence that, whatever happens to this season, either united or arsenal would benefit from City being banned.

I think it was David Ornstein who claimed City have put aside £200 million to buy all the best young players in the world so we would dominate for the next decade. Assuming any policy decisions are made via webcast and Ornstein's claim was remotely true, are we being hacked again

 

[KS55]

I think it was David Ornstein who claimed City have put aside £200 million to buy all the best young players in the world so we would dominate for the next decade. Assuming any policy decisions are made via webcast and Ornstein's claim was remotely true, are we being hacked again

Probably bullshit.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Some football clubs will not survive the corona virus pandemic. The longer it goes on the greater the number of clubs which will not survive it and more and more the talk is not of "getting back to normal" but of having to come to terms with "a new normal". No-one knows what the consequences of this "new normal will be for our way of life and for a sport which depends on thousands of people coming together in a stadium we can't begin to imagine. Club revenues may take a very long time indeed to reach pre-pandemic levels, if they ever do. Clubs at every level are going to require owners and shareholders to put money into their club not only to maintain their status but simply to survive. UEFA's attempt to control the finances of clubs the length and breadth of Europe will stop being simply ridiculous and ignorant and will be ignorant and a dangerous existential threat, especially if it is applied inconsistently to suit the interests of a few clubs. In an extreme case, the cartel will not be threatening to break away, UEFA will be trying to persuade every other club to stay. The decision of West Ham's shareholders to put £30 million into the club is the first sign that some club owners will do what is necessary to support their club without waiting for vague details of UEFA's "relaxation of the rules" and if UEFA tries to do anything about it half the league at least will join us in court to stuff them.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Probably bullshit.

Of course it is, but people like Ornstein are still regurgitating this nonsense. The other journo he was talking to stated ffp was good for the game, but not during the present situation, so he was actually defending clubs still millions in debt but who did nothing to insure or prepare for unseen disasters.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

One thing I think is for certain Mansour will won’t his football team to stay one the best in the world so I expect he will invest again after not putting a penny in the team/club for around four seasons.

Our Abu Dhabi sponsors put in at least tens of millions every year. This might not be the Sheikh’s money but they are his and Khaldoon’s contacts.

Sheikh Mansour will want us to be at the top but if our fans try to be too shrewd (eg not committing a penny towards season tickets until the last case of Coronavirus has gone) he might find somewhere else to invest.