UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Vic]

Not quite correct. The Dupont case finished in an unsatisfactory no score draw. Dupont won at first instance in a Belgian court, but then it all got messy on a matter of jurisdiction.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/22/eu-supreme-court-rejects-ffp-challenge-uefa

So it's never been tested to a definitive conclusion (i.e. by the ECJ).

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

I can't remember exactly what that offer was, but I sincerely hope we have a record of it, and then submit what was on offer should we "take a pinch", and what that eventually became when we didn't, be interesting to see what UEFA had to say if they were asked by the CAS for an explanation as to why there was such a difference.

Offers put during negotiations are often 'without prejudice' and, if they are seen to be genuine offers as part of a negotiation process agreed by the parties then they are likely to be upheld as made under privilege and, as such, cannot be referred to in later proceedings.
This is because the courts want parties in dispute to be able to negotiate, prior to raising the matter to a court of law, without being fearful that their discussions and offers will be used against them at a later date.
If it wasn't for this reasonable convention we'd have less disputes settled in negotiation and far more taken to court.

It's also the case that an awful lot of correspondence in matters of dispute are marked as being 'without prejudice' when they actually aren't. Just because an offer says that it's without prejudice doesn't mean it is.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I'm not talking about us blue blooded fans that have supported our club through all the ups and downs...it's about attracting new fans. Our kids will not want to support City because all their friends will be calling them "cheats".
It's already happening now....one of my City mates here in Salford was telling me how he got abuse while wearing his colours from some checkout kid at the supermarket as he was scanning is shopping! Muttering "cheat, cheat cheat" under his breath scanning each item.
That kind of thing WONT deter already established fans...but it WILL put off young kids.

I hope your mate walked away from the checkout and told the twat to go and put all the items back on the shelf

 

[The Clansman]

Absolutely. Coincidentally, United would get two and Liverpool would get two.

Funny that, eh?

How can anything be dismissed or ruled off the table if it becomes open season on our club.

We have seen the self-interests on show during this whole coronavirus restart debate.

Today's society is very quick to jump on the bandwagon which will serve it best.

And a Premier League chief exec hand picked by the 2 clubs who would benefit most. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Dirty Harry]

Offers put during negotiations are often 'without prejudice' and, if they are seen to be genuine offers as part of a negotiation process agreed by the parties then they are likely to be upheld as made under privilege and, as such, cannot be referred to in later proceedings.
This is because the courts want parties in dispute to be able to negotiate, prior to raising the matter to a court of law, without being fearful that their discussions and offers will be used against them at a later date.
If it wasn't for this reasonable convention we'd have less disputes settled in negotiation and far more taken to court.

It's also the case that an awful lot of correspondence in matters of dispute are marked as being 'without prejudice' when they actually aren't. Just because an offer says that it's without prejudice doesn't mean it is.

Thanks mate, bit of a shame in this case.

 

[Sir peace frog]

why is it,that when people are posting on this thread they start speaking like they are speaking in court,either that or bluemoon is riddled with lawyers and barristers .

anyway after the first FFP ruling when I was certain we would get away with it,this time I think we are going to get nailed to the wall by some dirty underhand trick they have under their sleeves.

 

[chesterbells]

why is it,that when people are posting on this thread they start speaking like they are speaking in court,either that or bluemoon is riddled with lawyers and barristers .

anyway after the first FFP ruling when I was certain we would get away with it,this time I think we are going to get nailed to the wall by some dirty underhand trick they have under their sleeves.

Maybe we are all just getting nervy - it’s nearly time. Can’t imagine what this thread will be like during Mon Tues and Wed next week...

 

[red 2 hats]

why is it,that when people are posting on this thread they start speaking like they are speaking in court,either that or bluemoon is riddled with lawyers and barristers .

anyway after the first FFP ruling when I was certain we would get away with it,this time I think we are going to get nailed to the wall by some dirty underhand trick they have under their sleeves.

My thoughts exactly, they will pull some dirty trick and fuck us over bug time.
They didn't arrive at their judgement without confidence, probably had legal bigwigs from the G14 all over this for months.
Hope to god I'm wrong but I'm fearing the worst.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

My thoughts exactly, they will pull some dirty trick and fuck us over bug time.
They didn't arrive at their judgement without confidence, probably had legal bigwigs from the G14 all over this for months.
Hope to god I'm wrong but I'm fearing the worst.

Same. We’re going to get fucked, we’re just waiting to see the nature of the fucking.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Reminder of our original response:

Thanks for re-posting this. I just can't believe that Soriano would have made this statement unless he was certain of our case. He is putting his whole career on the line here. He didn't have to make these comments. He could have just let the case run its course. I believe him.