UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[KS55]

Great, but not very likely!

 

[OB1]

I'd like to remind City fans that City ain't dead yet! The passive attitude that seems to think that our club is some wet lettuce that can be kicked around at will by a gang of asset strippers and failed executives from ailing companies is not one I share. Our owner and the people he employs seem quite capable of taking care of themselves - and our club. Let's remember that the club seems remarkably untroubled by news of the "investigations" and insists that the club has done nothing wrong. There does seem to be a conspiracy against the club but I think this is the result of panic at what Pep has achieved at the club in only 2 and a bit years but I'm not yet convinced UEFA is still part of it. Even if it is Abu Dabi still has recourse to the law and seems in pretty good shape to ruin UEFA, the FA, the PL and FIFA on the way to a victory in the courts. Cheer up - we're still alive and kicking!

KAM is a man who walks with presidents, he won’t sit back this time.

 

[squirtyflower]

Hard to concentrate on the game if latecomers keep walking in front of you.

You can’t walk in front of them

 

[KS55]

Excess would be closest.
What limit did we pass?

Loving the discussion of 'plethora'.
A plethora of UEFA ****s.
A plethora press pillocks.
A plethora of hacked e-mails.
A plethora of lies.

 

[come-on-barney]

Oh dear Tuesday night should be fun!

 

[I'm Blue]

We’re getting fucked in the arse.
We’re getting fucked in the arse.
We’re Man City we’re getting fucked in the arse.

They brought in rules to stop us. It didn’t.
They changed the rules to stop us. It didn’t.
They’re trying to stop us once again. It won’t.
I’m intrigued to how this pans out.
I see a court case if we get done for ffp again.

 

[blueish swede]

A plethora is an excess of something. It implies that we've passed a normal or acceptable limit.

It would be much more useful in the singular, a plethorum, used to indicate when one of something is an excessive amount:
"A plethorum of UEFA officials was at the game today. He was sat in 126"

 

[ricky77]

This is the only area of concern I believe we will receive sanctioning, possibly a two window embargo from Fifa.

When I saw Chelsea were yesterday refused a right of appeal, it got me thinking.

Other clubs have been able to bring forward their spending like Barca and Atletico.

Now, either Fifa are thinking two steps ahead and it is not really Chelsea but City they have prepared the ground for, in terms of deals being done behind the scenes.

Infantino, however, is certainly someone in our corner, so I'm not sure, unless Chelsea are being used as a stalking horse to win on further appeal, thus leaving the way clear also for City to spend £200m this summer and see out a transfer embargo?

If we risked a ban and done something dodgy on purpose with a third party ownership issue , on Bruno fucking Zuccilini then someone needs tomorrow their job lol

 

[ricky77]

If we risked a ban and done something dodgy on purpose with a third party ownership issue , on Bruno fucking Zuccilini then someone needs tomorrow their job lol

To lose their job even.

 

[Gordyola]

I'd like to remind City fans that City ain't dead yet! The passive attitude that seems to think that our club is some wet lettuce that can be kicked around at will by a gang of asset strippers and failed executives from ailing companies is not one I share. Our owner and the people he employs seem quite capable of taking care of themselves - and our club. Let's remember that the club seems remarkably untroubled by news of the "investigations" and insists that the club has done nothing wrong. There does seem to be a conspiracy against the club but I think this is the result of panic at what Pep has achieved at the club in only 2 and a bit years but I'm not yet convinced UEFA is still part of it. Even if it is Abu Dabi still has recourse to the law and seems in pretty good shape to ruin UEFA, the FA, the PL and FIFA on the way to a victory in the courts. Cheer up - we're still alive and kicking!

In KAM words “took a pinch” We won’t be pinched again
Having said that I believe City and UEFA are in collusion to put this to bed UEFA are scared what other skeletons could come out

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

If there was an embargo would the group still be able to sign players? surely the clubs that aren't within Europe would and then loan the over to City?

 

[Gordyola]

Is their an argument here to simply just say "fuck you" and withdraw ourselves out of the competition this season?

Akin to admitting guilt and if people are right getting out of the competition is what they want

 

[Manchester_lalala]

If there was an embargo would the group still be able to sign players? surely the clubs that aren't within Europe would and then loan the over to City?

I don’t think our owners would even contemplate doing this.

 

[blueparrot]

If there was an embargo would the group still be able to sign players? surely the clubs that aren't within Europe would and then loan the over to City?

No, there isn't such a thing as a transfer ban, it's a registration ban, so whether buying or loaning players they can't be registered.

 

[yankblue]

So the message UEFA is sending is you can be hundreds of millions and debt, suck money out of the club, and continue to spend on players and that's completely fine. But clubs that have have no debt, heavily invest in infrastructure and the surrounding areas, are in no way shape or form allowed to spend to improve their squad. In fact they're evil for doing so and will be punished. Okay...

If they find nothing (which I don't think they will), City should should countersue for defamation and lost revenue

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Does this mean we can't enter the World Cup, to prove our true greatness ?

 

[Andrew___K]

Not sure if this nuance was discussed: does anyone think that getting the 'FFP breaching' case to CAS might undermine Infantino's position in FIFA?

He took part in the settlement agreement discussions and probably broke some of UEFA's official internal instructions in the process.

 

[Damanino]

If my memory is good wasnt this Zuculini at a club which had strong financial trouble in Argentina, and we even decided not to get him even for some small 1-2m fee and then out of good gesture we did signed him and got some deals into the deal like first refusal on any other player they might sell later or something like that.

We do have some obscure signings the more obscure it is especially from South America and Africa the more chance that something fishy going on.

We did have lot of African talents signings going to Norway loans Valerange, Odd and clubs like that. Dont ask me why and what happened to those players. Ghana right to dream academy players involved in these mostly but most of them never turned up at Manchester ever.
Then we have dozens of players on books of CFG we need complete 100% clear and legal handlings of all those contracts at least regarding Man City.

But if we still managed to make some mistakes in transfers so close to home like Sancho from Watford thats a big problem.

If Barca, Atletico etc were able to handle these transfer bans we will too.

 

[FootballSense]

A football executive, formerly Chief Executive and also Director of Finance of Manchester United; still a serving Board Director of Manchester United, registered in the Cayman Islands; Vice-chairman of The Football Association. He served as vice-chairman of the G-14 management committee until the G-14 was disbanded. He also sits on the UEFA Executive Committee and the FIFA Council.

This person is without vested interests whatsoever, does not influence proceedings and without doubt does not in any way, shape or form represent Manchester United or their interests.

 

[asahartford1]

A football executive, formerly Chief Executive and also Director of Finance of Manchester United; still a serving Board Director of Manchester United, registered in the Cayman Islands; Vice-chairman of The Football Association. He served as vice-chairman of the G-14 management committee until the G-14 was disbanded. He also sits on the UEFA Executive Committee and the FIFA Council.

This person is without vested interests whatsoever, does not influence proceedings and without doubt does not in any way, shape or form represent Manchester United or their interests.

He is playing a blinder.