UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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PrezIke said:
Also, may not be next season so the author claims but start 20/21.

Also addressed the point why they don’t care how the emails were obtained, the same exact reasons I’ve thought we’d be punished no matter what “legal” arguments are made.

I know we don’t like it but a court battle I suspect will further drag the club’s reputation through the mud as we are widely seen as immoral by many average fans. Fair or not, it is a tool that can be used to hurt the club's growth and is what they will use to get us to submit.

I hate to make the comparison but legal racial segregation in the USA was not ended over legal reasoning. It was constitutionally and legally sound. It was ended based on “moral” grounds.

Whilst other clubs are guilty in various forms of “rigging” FFP none have yet been caught like we we’re and the moral police that are loud as hell won’t let us go unless something is “done” and we are made an example of.

UEFA are worried about their reputation if we escape over legal basis. I don't think they can affordnto back down. We already have a reputation problem and that is where they will go for us. FA might be put under pressure as well for points deduction, but I doubt that one.
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The rep has always been there ....rival fans have always been jealous and bitters , you only needed to see the comments / reaction yesterday.

But this football leaks stuff has not helped at all and will make a lot noise in the coming days
 
I"m happy if we get charged. The drip feed of negative comments, articles etc won't stop until we've seen UEFA off in court or UEFA have seen us banned from the champions League.

Bring it on. Let's hear all the facts on court. Not just the facts that suit one side of the story.

If the end result of that is a ban, so be it.
 
lets just walk away (would you miss it anyway) knowing we have little to no chance of winning it ???

lets call there bluff and walk away from european football and call out uefa for what they are cheats ??? the best team in england by a country mile and not playing in their cups will soon filter down into the system and major sponsors, and they will want to see the best team and players or stop investing in uefa ?? and manchester city are the major players in world football for tv arm chairs fans a cross the world right now people want to watch manchester city and the style of football we play

i have been saying a years it need somebody with the power to stand up to uefa and call them out ?? pep would be my first choice ?? but he is to far up the ladder in world football and maybe knows any future plans in football would be at risk if he blows the whistle ?? and his plans to be manager of Spain would be under threat ??? but somebody with nothing to lose coming to the end of his career should be shouting from the hill tops about uefa ??? on why he has not been given a far crack in europe with his time at manchester city and they have stopped him have a chance of glory in the champions league

its beyond a joke and nobody can just say its just a conspiracy by city fans ?? and they are bitter ?? to many things have gone on to be unlucky, and even VAR this season was a joke and not showing the referee the right clips was just unlucky hahahahaha or not having working tv monitors in the first round of the knockouts was just unlucky hahahahaha

i can pick loads of stuff that has happened in europe when manchester city are involved ?? and its right across the board from top to bottom they keep putting up building blocks and knocking us down time after time, we are beaten before the uefa anthem rings out before kick off even the players faces says it all
 
PrezIke said:
Are all of us also against whistleblowers? The man who stole USA documents to show illegal activities by the US government (bombings) in Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia. Or Snowden exposing illegal spying by governments of their people. 100% illegal. Do we.all think they were wrong? I'm just asking.
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Yes, I do think they were wrong. I think Daniel Ellsberg was wrong to steal the Pentagon Papers. I don't think the NYT, Post, etc. publishing what he stole was wrong, and neither did the Supreme Court. I think Snowden was wrong too. Once an unsanctioned, crime committing individual has decided what is best for "the greater good", it's a very slippery slope. I don't think the police should be allowed to invade my home based on whatever they feel like without a warrant. I don't think evidence illegally obtained should be admissible in court. But this isn't the US Justice system.

I agree with others who said City should have nipped this in the bud and gone right after UEFA from day one five years ago are right. I also think that's an easy conclusion for me to reach today with 20/20 hindsight.
 
moomba said:
I"m happy if we get charged. The drip feed of negative comments, articles etc won't stop until we've seen UEFA off in court or UEFA have seen us banned from the champions League.

Bring it on. Let's hear all the facts on court. Not just the facts that suit one side of the story.

If the end result of that is a ban, so be it.
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Wholeheartedly agree.
 
Who gives a shit. I'm still buzzing from winning back to back titles and I'll be wooping it up all summer.
Ban us from the champions league? So fuckin what, it's corrupt from top to bottom.

I mean whichever numpty has broke this story is either a rag, dipper or one of the cockney clubs, it's pure jealousy.
Fuck em.
 
ancoats said:
lets just walk away (would you miss it anyway) knowing we have little to no chance of winning it ???

lets call there bluff and walk away from european football and call out uefa for what they are cheats ??? the best team in england by a country mile and not playing in their cups will soon filter down into the system and major sponsors, and they will want to see the best team and players or stop investing in uefa ?? and manchester city are the major players in world football for tv arm chairs fans a cross the world right now people want to watch manchester city and the style of football we play

i have been saying a years it need somebody with the power to stand up to uefa and call them out ?? pep would be my first choice ?? but he is to far up the ladder in world football and maybe knows any future plans in football would be at risk if he blows the whistle ?? and his plans to be manager of Spain would be under threat ??? but somebody with nothing to lose coming to the end of his career should be shouting from the hill tops about uefa ??? on why he has not been given a far crack in europe with his time at manchester city and they have stopped him have a chance of glory in the champions league

its beyond a joke and nobody can just say its just a conspiracy by city fans ?? and they are bitter ?? to many things have gone on to be unlucky, and even VAR this season was a joke and not showing the referee the right clips was just unlucky hahahahaha or not having working tv monitors in the first round of the knockouts was just unlucky hahahahaha

i can pick loads of stuff that has happened in europe when manchester city are involved ?? and its right across the board from top to bottom they keep putting up building blocks and knocking us down time after time, we are beaten before the uefa anthem rings out before kick off even the players faces says it all
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Trouble is, all the players love it. Imagine a five year ban from the CL. Now imagine how many of the current team, who’d still be playing in 5 years, would still be here. The answer is none, I’m afraid.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
Isn’t this just the same old stuff.
They have some stolen e-mails making unsubstantiated allegations about where Etihad airlines got the money it used to meet its contractual obligations to City. UEFA could ask Etihad if they could take a quick squint at their accounts, but I think we know what the answer might be.
It is surely none of uefa’s business where a commercial entity gets its money from, especially as it was passed as ‘fair market value’ at the time.
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Exactly. Those emails contained suggestions of potential wrongdoing but not one single piece of actual evidence. They could also be easily dismissed as referring to something entirely different that is none of anyone else's business. UEFA may well go for a ban but there is simply no way it would stand up to any kind of legal scrutiny.
 
Time for a FIFA world club championship........step up Infantino. Lets make our own history and enter it. FCUK U£FA right off.
 
Would it not be counterintuitive to ban us from the CL and, ultimately, going against what FFP is meant to stand for?

A typical CL season to us is prob worth 80-100mil - about 20% of our annual revenue.

Taking this amount away from us would almost certainly see us breaching FFP rules again...and then what? another ban?

I thought the whole idea of FFP was to make clubs sustainable?
 
fortunate son said:
Would it not be counterintuitive to ban us from the CL and, ultimately, going against what FFP is meant to stand for?

A typical CL season to us is prob worth 80-100mil - about 20% of our annual revenue.

Taking this amount away from us would almost certainly see us breaching FFP rules again...and then what? another ban?

I thought the whole idea of FFP was to make clubs sustainable?
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No, it was concocted to stop Manchester City only.
 
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