UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Gordyola]

People are getting a bit giddy. I'm sure they'll find a way to fuck us one way or another. I wouldn't say any of this is good for us really.

Really? Read City's statement and realise its a statement of intent

 

[mayo31]

Well most of the time i get to rip him for being a northerner supporting Spurs, for no reason and also Spurs continuously doing a spurs every season. However, this season i'd rather they didn't for this one game.

I dont think its banter though, its just what everyone thinks.

I would simply say, step outside and say that. Off the record.

 

[M18CTID]

The NYT journo getting giddy

What a fucking weirdo - as if those 2 examples bear any similarities to this case! Surely, more relevant examples - though not admittedly identical - would be all those clubs who have won their appeals against UEFA when going to CAS

 

[bobmcfc]

Is CAS our only option ?

 

[wagonman]

I don't know anything but...

No matter how big or "important" my organisation is, I wouldn't want to face up to City's lawyers in a legal dispute unless I really, really, really knew I was in the right and could prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Media headline seeking press (NYT) versus a huge company with access to world's best lawyers on the subject of truth... I know whose side I'm backing...

JJ

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

So is there anyone who still thinks we should NOT boo their jingle?

 

[Cobwebcat]

The NYT journo getting giddy

misleading?! Is that the charge? They're making this up as they go along.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Is CAS our only option ?

First option.

 

[Gordyola]

Simon Stone was on 5Live talking shite getting all his facts wrong I complained by text to them and hes not been back since I guess they may be aware of the the force behind the club's statement

They have replaced Stone with Richard Conway who has given a proper response and outlined City's statement in detail saying how strongly worded it is

 

[OB1]

Looks like City are preparing to take the gloves off, as Tolmie alluded earlier in the week.

I assume some very expensive lawyers are going to unload both barrels on UEFA.

 

[whp.blue]

So is there anyone who still thinks we should NOT boo their jingle?

Probably loads on here.

 

[117 M34]

Just to be clear, the problem isn't with how much the deals were for, it's who paid the money?

 

[Mid Wales blue]

I’m pretty sure the wording of both statements put out by the club this week, are not words of an organisation, contemplating going to CAS.



Manchester City FC is fully cooperating in good faith with the CFCB IC’s ongoing investigation. In doing so the Club is reliant on both the CFCB IC’s independence and commitment to due process; and on UEFA’s commitment of the 7th of March that it “….will make no further comment on the matter while the investigation is ongoing”.

The New York Times report citing “people familiar with the case” is therefore extremely concerning. The implications are that either Manchester City’s good faith in the CFCB IC is misplaced or the CFCB IC process is being misrepresented by individuals intent on damaging the Club’s reputation and its commercial interests. Or both.

Manchester City’s published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record. The accusations of financial irregularities are entirely false, and comprehensive proof of this fact has been provided to the CFCB IC.

And,


“Manchester City Football Club is disappointed, but regrettably not surprised, by the sudden announcement of the referral to be made by the CFCB IC Chief Investigator Yves Leterme.

“The leaks to media over the last week are indicative of the process that has been overseen by Mr. Leterme.

“Manchester City is entirely confident of a positive outcome when the matter is considered by an independent judicial body.
The accusation of financial irregularities remains entirely false and the CFCB IC referral ignores a comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence provided by Manchester City FC to the Chamber.
The decision contains mistakes, misinterpretations and confusions fundamentally borne out of a basic lack of due process and there remain significant unresolved matters raised by Manchester City FC as part of what the club has found to be a wholly unsatisfactory, curtailed, and hostile process.

These are the words of a multi billion pound organisation, who are willing to protect their interests, and the interests of partners/sponsors, through the highest courts in the land.

Manchester City, I hope, are on the warpath and ready to rain misery, fear and hardship, into the very hearts of those who have dragged the good name of our club to the gutter.

Come on City!

 

[SWP's back]

The problem is that City already penalized by Uefa before.

How’s that a problem?

 

[rabby]

Does anyone know how stolen emails would stand up in court?

Or would a judge simply dismiss any evidence than was obtained by theft?

Best bet is probably print them off, then use a form of origami and you should get a reasonably solid structure. ; )

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

Probably loads on here.

Sadly there will be some. Would love to unfurl the biggest fuck off banner with BOOOOOOOOOOOO! written on it at the first CL game next season when that jingle is played.

 

[domalino]

If UEFA try to ban the club after having ignored cast iron proof of Citys innocence, but fail in a proper court, do they open themselves up to civil legal action for damage to reputation etc.?

That's the only way I see this ending with a win for the club. They have to stop the ban, then go above and beyond to have UEFA publicly shamed for it.

Outside of that, no one will ever believe Cuty were innocent, it will just be assumed there was a backroom deal or bribe, or city got through on a technicality.

 

[Cobwebcat]

I’m pretty sure the wording of both statements put out by the club this week, are not words of an organisation, contemplating going to CAS.



Manchester City FC is fully cooperating in good faith with the CFCB IC’s ongoing investigation. In doing so the Club is reliant on both the CFCB IC’s independence and commitment to due process; and on UEFA’s commitment of the 7th of March that it “….will make no further comment on the matter while the investigation is ongoing”.

The New York Times report citing “people familiar with the case” is therefore extremely concerning. The implications are that either Manchester City’s good faith in the CFCB IC is misplaced or the CFCB IC process is being misrepresented by individuals intent on damaging the Club’s reputation and its commercial interests. Or both.

Manchester City’s published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record. The accusations of financial irregularities are entirely false, and comprehensive proof of this fact has been provided to the CFCB IC.

And,


“Manchester City Football Club is disappointed, but regrettably not surprised, by the sudden announcement of the referral to be made by the CFCB IC Chief Investigator Yves Leterme.

“The leaks to media over the last week are indicative of the process that has been overseen by Mr. Leterme.

“Manchester City is entirely confident of a positive outcome when the matter is considered by an independent judicial body.
The accusation of financial irregularities remains entirely false and the CFCB IC referral ignores a comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence provided by Manchester City FC to the Chamber.
The decision contains mistakes, misinterpretations and confusions fundamentally borne out of a basic lack of due process and there remain significant unresolved matters raised by Manchester City FC as part of what the club has found to be a wholly unsatisfactory, curtailed, and hostile process.

These are the words of a multi billion pound organisation, who are willing to protect their interests, and the interests of partners/sponsors, through the highest courts in the land.

Manchester City, I hope, are on the warpath and ready to rain misery, fear and hardship, into the very hearts of those who have dragged the good name of our club to the gutter.

Come on City!

They will go to CAS first though.

 

[SWP's back]

Surely all that has happened is that the Investigatory commitee (IC) has passed the matter to the adjudicatory committee (AC), which is the process? That HAD to happen, regardless of the outcome, and it's now known what the recommendations actually are. The UEFA statement is entirely neutral in tone, and simply tells the world where the process has got to.

I think you're right about the difficult position UEFA are in regarding possibly ending up in court though, and that may take a while for them to work out (and probably talk to City about).

Not it didn’t have to happen. If the IC found no wrong doing or recommended punishment of 100k euros or less, they didn’t have to bump it on to the AC at all.

 

[George Hannah]

Looks like City are preparing to take the gloves off, as Tolmie alluded earlier in the week.
I assume some very expensive lawyers are going to unload both barrels on UEFA.

Yves Leterme has been named and shamed by us - interesting Wiki
"Private life and hobbies
Leterme is known to be very fond of goats. He breeds goats in his private time in the small farm where he lives..."
Maybe Shaun should have a word