UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Rammy Blue]

City will surely come out swinging now, and it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out in the CAS. The punishment seems absurdly harsh and I’d be surprised if it was upheld. Even a reduced punishment (e.g. a one year ban) would still be extremely damaging though. A fascinating few months ahead, with a lot on the line for both parties.

Unfortunately, as usual, we will have trial by media too, as is what is happening already. Guilty regardless of the decision. City have made a right mess of all this, we should have been gloves off a long time ago.

 

[blueinsa]

I think you could do with a break from the forum mate.

Needed one for the last 12 years!

 

[mccity]

You mean top with all the media on their side?

I'd happily be slumming it in the doldrums of life if it meant us not being Liverpool. Success isn't everything.

 

[ballinio]

How about we show some real bollocks for a change & pull out of the Madrid game, I think we know how it’s going to go anyway .

 

[Vic]

And now the positives....

Pep was highly likely going in 12 months anyway.

If he decides to go the end of this season Then we can start the rebuild now instead of in 12 months time.

We will not lose Foden,and Garcia because of lack of game time.

And lets be honest we have never looked remotely like winning this corrupt competition with Pep as manager.He simply can not be pragmatic when he needs to against Europes best teams.

Aguero will see out his contract with us regardless because of his advanced age.And because he genuinely loves us.

Raz if he wants to go the £100,000 000 will seriously come in handy the next 2 seasons

Leroy has been colluding for a move with Bayern for a while.Another £100 000 000 to team rebuilding.

We go back to buying good up and coming players again like we did VK,and david Silva.

KDB would be a loss.

"Remotely"? a 6 inch offside VAR decision kept us from last year's semi-final.

 

[kit's blue]

Feel so sorry for Sheikh Mansour he bought a club about to go under and has turned it into a success. This turn around has gained us many haters it's time for City to stand up and fight the injustice . We the fans can do our bit to feck UEFA love the Blues , let's pull together as one and that includes Pep. Whatever happens ban or no ban . We are City we dont take sh*t .

 

[HelloCity]

You must be a lot younger than me. The only upside I can see if this is that Phil Foden is deffo going to get good game time

Time goes by like it’s absolutely nothing and this club has decades and decades of success to look forward to.

We’re still in relatively early days of our evolution as an elite club. Ban or no ban we’ll continue on the journey that we’ve been on for the last decade.

We will not be going away no matter how hard they try.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Not this time, we either fight it all the way or the owners sell up.

We may well fight if, I am utterly sure that we will, but what I don’t share is the macho certainty that we will win, just cos we are fucking minted

 

[Ric]

Unfortunately, as usual, we will have trial by media too, as is what is happening already. Guilty regardless of the decision. City have made a right mess of all this, we should have Ben gloves off a long time ago.

Yeah, with hindsight the “taking the pinch” stance last time hasn’t really been vindicated by today’s ruling.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

City will surely come out swinging now, and it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out in the CAS. The punishment seems absurdly harsh and I’d be surprised if it was upheld. Even a reduced punishment (e.g. a one year ban) would still be extremely damaging though. A fascinating few months ahead, with a lot on the line for both parties.

I don't think we will accept any punishment until our last avenue has been explored. I'd hope not anyway.

 

[Brendan110_0]

Puma may pull their sponsorship deal now.

 

[Vegas]

Good article by Martin Samuel https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...acket-payback-clubs-hate-Manchester-City.html

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

City owner has said he will spend £30,000 000 on the Worlds best lawyers to tackle UEFA.

Fighting talk that is.................

Source?

 

[paulchapo]

Liverpool get 6 years for mass murder
City get 2 years for spending their own money

Two totally separate issues and that event has been whitewashed from history.

 

[SidJames]

Strange World we live in.... Julian Assange faces life in a US Prison and beeing waterboarded daily be the CIA for hacking emails.

Meanwhile UEFA used hacked emails by a criminal that can obviously not be authentically verified to be Judge,Jury,and executioner.

Can you imagine trying to make such evidence admissible in a real Court of Law.

UEFA is the very definition of corruption.

 

[marco]

City were aware of the verdict of UEFAs investigation on Jan 23rd.
If you think City, knowing they had no chance of having this over turned in the CAS, wouldn’t leak a thing and allow this to slap us/the fans in the face immediately - you’re delusional and a bit too pessimistic (city fan or not)

the gesturing and threats from UEFA in this case stand for little when a legitimate & legal appeal is lodged

the heavy fine will be down processed to a more reasonable, standard value upon appeal too.

watch this space.

most sensible post yet

 

[Citizen Green]

There’s another element to this too.

Defending against Uefa is one thing. I’ve never cared for FFP and I’d rather we’d fought against it.

However, we didn’t, instead we became self sustaining and we made quite a big thing about how good our business model was. As a fan, I bought into that fully.

If, and it’s still an if, we cooked the books, then it won’t annoy me that we failed ffp or try to hoodwink Uefa. I’d be more annoyed that the vision of self sustainability and when we got there that was sold to me as a fan was a myth.

Had we ignored ffp, spent what we liked and accepted all the consequences, I’d have backed the owners to the hilt. Had we challenged uefa immediately about ffp as a principle, I’d have backed the owners to the hilt. If they’ve lied to me as a fan in order to lie to uefa and created the pretence that we’ve passed and our business model was always sound, that’s where I start to have an issue.

I don’t know which one yet is actually true. I want to believe and have always backed that the club is right and will continue to do so unless I see enough to think otherwise. The email leak was worrying to say the least though and if we have been misled (and I mean us as fans rather than Uefa) then my support for the owners will go very quickly.

It’s just a wait and see now though. Feels like we’re approaching the end game.

Clearly, the hacked emails relate to the period we were sanctioned in initially (2014)

I have no doubt we ‘cooked the books’ in this period and treated the rules with the contempt they deserved. The business model now is one of the best in the game on the back of the initial inflations.

Don’t forget UEFA deemed the Etihad deal was fair value.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Impossible for me, needed a shit and a shave, and popped down to the shop for a box of lagers, just jumped 30 pages or so.

Don't suppose I've missed anything important?

City relegated to the National League North.

 

[Blue Bogey]

We have faced it before and we can stand up to it now. See the positive possibilities. Redirect the substantial energy of our frustrations and turn it into positive, effective, unstoppable determination.

 

[Ric]

I don't think we will accept any punishment until our last avenue has been explored. I'd hope not anyway.

You would hope not. Khaldoon specifically said we wouldn’t, and hopefully he is as good as his word.