UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

The sheikh needs to start getting people to pull some strings. FFS they spend about £10bn a year on arms! Can’t Putin or Trump help out a bit :-)

 

[bavarian blue]

Whatever floats your boat!

As long as she floats our boat, who cares.?

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

The time limit on these would have passed, so unless there was something within the 2016 onwards accounts, what could UEFA do??

Don’t get me wrong it’s principled and I get it and we all know now taking the pinch when we did was a mistake (hindsight is wonderful). That was the time to do it, we had less to lose and more to gain.

They probably don’t want the same again and feel we should have took them on when we had the chance last time. I just think if it was on offer (and it’s only hearsay) it would probably have been the smart move on this occasion.

If you were charged with something you were innocent of, and had the financial resources to employ the best lawyers money can buy, would you accept a lesser charge in a deal or fight to clear your name?

 

[nmc]

50/50 i would say,in other words no-one knows as EUFA have documents they said they would make public only if we didn't go to CAS now,we don't know what that is or whst we have on them,thats my reading anyway and i've read every post @pudge

UEFA won’t make those documents public but City will have access to them.

 

[bluetonium]

Are we sure that they never asked for or got the whole lot of emails not heard that before and not sure how anyone outside of the selct few would know

I don't know to be honest, but the club said at the time they would not comment on or engage on emails that may have been illegally obtained.

Can't see any reason we'd have given them to UEFA.

 

[oakiecokie]

Dick Pound. What a name.

I wish my fucker would.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I wish my fucker would.

Hit it with a claw hammer, that will wake the fucker up.

Trust me I'm a Dr.

 

[DRINKLEVEDRY]

I wish my fucker would.

You dirty old cnut!!







So do I.:-)

 

[Blueknows]

mmmm didn't realise 2 days before the announcement...…….12 February, 2020: Cas publishes documents that show City sought damages from Uefa for what they alleged were "unlawful" leaks to the media with regards to an inquiry into possible FFP breaches. The documents also show senior Uefa official Yves Leterme had dismissed the club's claims, stating they were "groundless" and "unacceptable in tone".

 

[Stevieatlasblue]

UEFA corrupt racist organization.

 

[kaz7]

That is the farce in all this though, who the hell are uefa, the organisation that enforces ffp to cater to the whim of the elite, being able to determine what sponsorship deal is to be considered fair value

It is prejudice and and biased at the very least. It wouldnt happen on the high street and it very well wouldnt even get the through the door in corporate business

Its a scam, it can be even uefa trying to blackmail clubs outside of the elite via means of fines

It is masqarading as 'fair play'....it is anything but fair play

And to those stupid united and scouse fans screaming ffp this and that...the notion of calling a millionaire that invested in a club back in the days before ffp was introduced didnt even register

It only became a thing when middle eastern money made its move into football

Yes i think there a lot of racism going on here,the media has been full of it,especially since may when they really showed themselves,i expect the club realise that as well,all UEFA should be concerned about is money is money whoever is spending it,if they want their made up rules then apply them fairly,we know it was never about fairplay,this was absolutely about shutting us out.PSG had a man on the inside helping them,i don't think they were ever the true target,this is all about the biggest scalp ,in the biggest country with the history clubs wanting us to disappear,especially with pep here,i pray we are in the right here i really do
In the meantime this,var and pigmol has killed my love of the game,after over 40yrs i am quite distraught about that

 

[Silva2021]

If you were charged with something you were innocent of, and had the financial resources to employ the best lawyers money can buy, would you accept a lesser charge in a deal or fight to clear your name?

That say’s we’re 100% innocent and I don’t think we are.

City’s arguments seem to be on due process and on the evidence of which UEFA are using to prove City’s guilt.

 

[nmc]

IF it gets overturned.

For me, the likely scenario is a 1 year CL ban, and a reduced fine. If the ban was completely overturned, it'd be utterly embarrasing for UEFA and a catastrophic hit to its intitutional integrity.

UEFA and integrity in the same sentence.... they have none. Absolutely none. It’s an organisation that’s supposed to oversee European wide football but it’s actually the play thing of 14 clubs who instruct it to do whatever is in their small minded and greedy self interests.

 

[davek1808]

UEFA and integrity in the same sentence.... they have none. Absolutely none. It’s an organisation that’s supposed to oversee European wide football but it’s actually the play thing of 14 clubs who instruct it to do whatever is in their small minded and greedy self interests.

Brilliant post.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

That say’s we’re 100% innocent and I don’t think we are.

City’s arguments seem to be on due process and on the evidence of which UEFA are using to prove City’s guilt.

We don't know what City have, we only went for the process because thats all we could challenge at that time. I doubt we are sleepwalking into a disaster, we will have weighed all pro's and con's.

You didn't answer my question btw ;}

 

[HolisticJim]

That say’s we’re 100% innocent and I don’t think we are.

City’s arguments seem to be on due process and on the evidence of which UEFA are using to prove City’s guilt.

I agree. I think we've cooked the books to a degree.
I think ffp is absolute nonsense, I think fifa, uefa they are all corrupt but I don't expect cas to overturn the decision. I think this could be a long road in which we could potentially come out of it looking even worse.

This, VAR, fifa, uefa... It's really killed my love for football. What kind of organisation prohibits investment in favour of debt.

 

[paulchapo]

UEFA and integrity in the same sentence.... they have none. Absolutely none. It’s an organisation that’s supposed to oversee European wide football but it’s actually the play thing of 14 clubs who instruct it to do whatever is in their small minded and greedy self interests.

Martin Samuel in the Mail said almost the same. The one journalist I would buy a pint.

 

[nmc]

Hello Sid.
My understanding from a podcast I've just listened to is as follows:
It seems that the ruling on the details of the judgement and our defence is down to the CAS, and CAS alone and there is no further appeal beyond CAS ( fits in with an earlier posting by @Tricky_Trev ).
However as I understood it if City are unhappy with result of the CAS appeal ruling they could ( under the 'public policy' grounds) appeal to the Swiss Federal Court that FFP is illegal in which case the UEFA ruling against City would become null and void.
This seems to fit in with City's pronouncements that we are going to fight this all way, because if the appeal process ended with CAS then City would not be able to pursue matters further.
One other thing - the lawyer on the podcast reckoned it could be about 15 months before the result of the CAS appeal was known.
As I say I'm not a lawyer, this is my understanding.
Hopefully all will become clear in the coming days.

This reflects UEFAs billy big bollocks mentality. They cannot stop City or anyone else going to Court. Who do they think they are?

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

UEFA corrupt racist organization.

Totally corrupt. An organisation in charge of european football...that punishes a club(s) and its owner for investing money thus restricting growth. Protects the elite to remain the elite and turns a blind eye to those clubs

But will punish outright racism with a meager few thousand pounds of fines

They deserve to be brought down

 

[kaz7]

Manchester City believe that they will win their appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. The club's Abu Dhabi owners – and Chinese and American partners – are refusing to rule out the prospect of taking their case to the civil courts. [@MullockSMirror]