UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Whether Uefa want a quick resolution or not, I think the club don't care until they bring them and those who have pushed this from the elite clubs down a peg or two.

I read the shiekh is livid, bit I read it that as he is livid with uefa rather than us for the sheer twattishness of them.
If as has been reported Cafein came to us with an offer to let this go away quietly which we turned down then this is just pure racketeering from uefa coming back to us every few years trying to extort more cash with threats of back dated bans.

Lookig at hiw the charges came about
Der spiegal paid a hacker for illegally obtained emails, as the time many speculated bayern were encouraging this, so lets look at bayern.

Recently had a massively inflated new sponsorship deal with adidas signed, the same adidas that own 8% of the club.
Audi also own over 8% of the club and are also major sponsors, as is their parent company volkswagon.
On volkswagons sustainability council is Yveves Letreme.
Chief financial investigator of our case and who was majorly influencial in the ban - Yveves Latreme.


This isn't just about Uefa and them being wankers, this is about how european football is rotten to the core with influence in uefa from a select few and how we refused to be yes men unlike PSG who now have a seat at the table.

On a side the bad press the shiekh is possibly getting is based on what we are reading here, I doubt there is much negativity about him elsewhere.

And what you have mentioned regarding Bayern and it’s deals could relate to other clubs and this supposed dossier we have that we have built

Just imagine if this dossier describes the like you mention but we have employed IT professionals that have found evidence the same to what we had leaked to der spiegel.
Which would highlight Uefa’s bias

that would be hilarious
 
It wouldn't matter if we played our second string in the domestic competitions. If we are banned from European football for two years we don't need to be in the top four. Without funds to recruit the title may be beyond us, so as long as we don't get relegated it won't matter. We have links in China and as far as I'm aware nobody can stop them paying us whatever they want, so if it dwarfs the champions league money happy days. Also see how the premier league like it when one of it's most entertaining clubs damage their brand by playing a second string and Liverpool have the league sewn up by October.
How many top players do you think would want no CL football and not trying to win the league Paul? You really think the likes of KDB would be switched on for 2 or 3 seasons like that?
 
Had the misfortune of having to listen to Talkshite on the way in to work courtesy of the City fan who gives me a lift and there was some journo on there spouting utter bollocks, saying it's not a hatchet job as the "evidence" fell into UEFA's lap rather than them going looking for it. That wasn't the worst - Alan Brazil (to his credit) mentioned the huge dossier of evidence that City have claimed clears us of any wrongdoing and how that may shape up in the appeal to CAS, yet this fucker completely ignored that and reckoned City's defence has only ever been about getting cleared on a technicality.
 
Just a query (as an IT person from the days of punched cards and paper tape - for youngsters that is the 1960/70s) .........................
How do we know the 'leaked emails' haven't been 'doctored' to make us look guilty?
In the good old days I used to be able to change punch cards and paper tape by filling in the holes.
And I could change data in computer files - and I wasn't a hacker just someone knowing my way around computer systems and data storage.
Also it is so easy today to amend anything once it is on a computer.Photoshopping is a typical example.

This doesn't form part of City's case. The club has never denied the authenticity of the e-mails just that they've been taken out of context.
 
Had the misfortune of having to listen to Talkshite on the way in to work courtesy of the City fan who gives me a lift and there was some journo on there spouting utter bollocks, saying it's not a hatchet job as the "evidence" fell into UEFA's lap rather than them going looking for it. That wasn't the worst - Alan Brazil (to his credit) mentioned the huge dossier of evidence that City have claimed clears us of any wrongdoing and how that may shape up in the appeal to CAS, yet this fucker completely ignored that and reckoned City's defence has only ever been about getting cleared on a technicality.
Who was the journalist?
 
I think it will play out fairly quickly. Its very important to Uefa and PL too know if City can be in CL next season or not. Clubs that have a chance now on 5th and 7th places to get into CL/EL wants to know what they should prepare for in the transfer market, do they have extra CL/EL income to plan with or not.

Also for City if CAS cancels the ban we want to know early and get on with our summer plans with some huge changes on the squad after the current quite shit PL campaign.

There was one report yesterday that said Mansour is following the case and is livid about how we ended up in this shitstorm. I wonder if he means by this the responsibilty of the City board or simply he means Uefa.
He certainly is getting lot of personal bad press, 99% of (fake)news run with the story that he personally paid large part of Etihad deal to City in a tricky/cheating way.

One thing is clear Uefa would be extremely happy if CAS upholds the original punishment or even if they cut it down to half for 1 year ban and some 10m, I fear that these two options have higher chance together than cancelling out the whole thing...

And PL will quickly act if anything will stick against us at CAS.

Really hope all that confidence coming from the club will turn into a winning case for us. We want an independent body to check the case, but if CAS wont help us, we are running out of options very quickly.
Our legal team has to be top notch, really hope their emails are properly secure. On the mean time I would hire top cyber hackers to find dirt on LEterme, Ceferin and the rest. Surely we can do their dirty tricks and hurt them a lot.

It has been stated multiple times that CAS is not the end of this. They will make a judgement over the fairness of the investigation and that will be all. I am not extremely confident we will get it thrown out at CAS but there is still a good chance.

Where I see us easily succeeding is in a real court, where we can discuss the legality of FFP.
 
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