UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Mikeegrini]

From the Conn article......

"In one of the emails, City’s then chief financial officer, Jorge Chumillas, had sent two invoices internally for the £67.5m 2015-16 sponsorship, stating that “£8m should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 [sic] by ADUG” – Mansour’s company vehicle."

Can someone please assure me that the highlighted part is not an accurate and direct quote from a Chumillas email. Or is it just a rehash presented as a fact?

 

[Bodicoteblue]

So Arsene Wenger thinks clubs should rely on their "natural" income. Funny how what's natural has changed so many times over the last 50 years. Fortunately noodle partners have always been natural though.

Maybe he’s thinking of all those ‘natural’ diamonds that made Danny Fiszman rich enough to put millions into arsenal and pave the way for the ‘invincibles’.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Yes it struck me that they all seem willing to just ignore City's strong denials and support the views of a proven corrupt organisation (UEFA) which is using second-hand versions of emails stolen by a man who is in custody facing 90 charges including fraud and extortion. The Uk media seem to have decided that all City's senior managers are liars and Rui Pinto is just a nice young man. Perhaps the police forces in Portugal, Switzerland, Hungary, Cayman Islands backed by Interpol are all involved in a conspiracy against UEFA.

You can tell it’s all fishy from the media when the Daily Mail start doing hero pieces on foreign criminals. That’s not typical of them, I think we can all agree....

 

[Oils]

I am truly sorry to have offended all you lovely english people . My grammer is not the best but I bet that I am as passionet about City as you are. So go lets just make fun off the foreign fan.
I may not have a season ticket but I have been a few time .
And for the record I became a City fan after seeing Dennis Tueart goal at Wembley all these years ago.

Good response mate :)

 

[CharliesRightPeg]

Hehe no it was an article Ric recommended this morning by a lawyer:
https://ninetythreetwenty.com/blog/seeing-the-wood-for-the-ffps-manchester-city-uefa-go-to-war/

Can we get this as a sticky?
It's the best thing I've read all week

 

[maurizio]

Mad isn't it? We could be banned for two years, have had our name dragged through the mud over arcane business rules and restrictions. We are all experts on related parties and Swiss court procedures. I mean it's not like our owner loaded the club with debt, registered it in the Cayman islands and proceeded to bleed the finances for himself.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

From the Conn article......

"In one of the emails, City’s then chief financial officer, Jorge Chumillas, had sent two invoices internally for the £67.5m 2015-16 sponsorship, stating that “£8m should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 [sic] by ADUG” – Mansour’s company vehicle."

Can someone please assure me that the highlighted part is not an accurate and direct quote from a Chumillas email. Or is it just a rehash presented as a fact?

All this fuss over less than sixty quid!

 

[laserblue]

So Arsene Wenger thinks clubs should rely on their "natural" income. Funny how what's natural has changed so many times over the last 50 years. Fortunately noodle partners have always been natural though.

The poor old soul must have forgotten that Danny Fiszman's gift of millions enabled him to build his first trophy winning sides at Arsenal.

 

[Manchester1894]

Please don't take my response personally as it is sincerely not aimed at you, but myself and I'm sure most City fans don't give a flying fuck.

No offence taken at all :) I know full well the 5th team shouldn't bemoan that scenario as they haven't earnt the right to play in the CL in the first place. But the bigger the team that gets 5th, the bigger the noise. Let's hope that appeal is whacked in asap and it's absolutely solid and concrete.

 

[Marvin]

All Conn's misinterpretation will do is give ammunition for the bitter rag/dipper/younameit knuckleheads who will claim this is 'proof' that City are state funded.

Telling how one person can use a piece of evidence to suit their own objective.

The original football leaks were presented in such a way that it made it look as if Sheikh mansour was the real source of the Etihad sponsorship. At least David Conn agrees that this piece of evidence suggests that Etihad's sponsorship of Man City was covered by the UAE state. City fans have said that for years, and yet Conn couches it in sinister terms. Still it's useful that one of the main allegations from the Der Spiegel email trail has now been undermined.

 

[squirtyflower]

Course they can. But they can’t be white middle class men as originally asserted.

Agree with your post however
It was a analogy for the views and outlook of all those there.
The poster I replied to said Syed couldn’t be racist as he was mixed race.
Had he said he wasn’t ‘white’ then I would have agreed

 

[SilverFox2]

These days expecting any journo to stick to the truth is a forlorn hope.
They mix news with deliberate lies to suit their agenda that feeds their need for clickbait subscribers.
The quality of ethics has been removed from their cv superseded by popularity.

Billy Weekly Liar was ahead of its time.

 

[Hesperus]

Hehe no it was an article Ric recommended this morning by a lawyer:
https://ninetythreetwenty.com/blog/seeing-the-wood-for-the-ffps-manchester-city-uefa-go-to-war/

very interesting article, offers optimism in the CAS appeal, but a scare that maybe UEFA have something nasty up their sleeve City aren’t aware of. The author also doesn’t hold out much hope if we fail at CAS and then try and take them to court. “We should assume the prospects of overturning the ban are slim and the damage exponentially grave”.... gulp.

 

[LGWIO]

I know most here think the media is completely against you...but driving home earlier actually heard Durham sticking up for you....and even stranger for him...making sense!
Basically saying, what have you actually done? Invested in a club to break into the "cartel", not loaded it with debt or run the club into the ground and boosted the local area and economy.
Have to say I agreed with him....throw it all out, you aint done anything wrong....and good luck!

 

[Cityfan1977]

and just one thing. Do you all think that Liverpool and United are so big becouse of all the lovely local people ?
No the difference is the turists the plastic fans as so many if you call them.
Having enough plastics mean more change of sponsers like Nissan instead of Etihad and all this shit goes away [emoji23]

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The poor old soul must have forgotten that Danny Fiszman's gift of millions enabled him to build his first trophy winning sides at Arsenal.

In blood diamonds.

 

[domalino]

Telling how one person can use a piece of evidence to suit their own objective.

The original football leaks were presented in such a way that it made it look as if Sheikh mansour was the real source of the Etihad sponsorship. At least David Conn agrees that this piece of evidence suggests that Etihad's sponsorship of Man City was covered by the UAE state. City fans have said that for years, and yet Conn couches it in sinister terms. Still it's useful that one of the main allegations from the Der Spiegel email trail has now been undermined.

Also lets be fair...a member of this community investigated, dug out some evidence and 12 hours later it's headlining one of the biggest papers in the country. Fans can have an impact on the discourse.

 

[manimanc]

very interesting article, offers optimism in the CAS appeal, but a scare that maybe UEFA have something nasty up their sleeve City aren’t aware of. The author also doesn’t hold out much hope if we fail at CAS and then try and take them to court. “We should assume the prospects of overturning the ban are slim and the damage exponentially grave”.... gulp.

Khaldoon has stressed numerous times that city have nothing to hide and are willing to comply.
UEFA can't have one iota of dirt on us as we haven't got anything.
They are basing this on leaked emails, without reading our 200 page dossier and listening to these debt ridden clubs skriking because we're doing things the right way.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

When does a file become a dossier?

 

[cityzen81]

From the Conn article......

"In one of the emails, City’s then chief financial officer, Jorge Chumillas, had sent two invoices internally for the £67.5m 2015-16 sponsorship, stating that “£8m should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 [sic] by ADUG” – Mansour’s company vehicle."

Can someone please assure me that the highlighted part is not an accurate and direct quote from a Chumillas email. Or is it just a rehash presented as a fact?

As far as I remember that quote is supposedly from the Chumillas email, however we have no way of knowing if it is real or taken out of context at the moment. It could be made up or someone at City May have replied saying no that isn’t right etc...