Very impressed with what Neville had to say last night, I know some believe he did this because of his ownership of Salford but even so, he certainly put a solid argument across. Its just a shame that there aren't more like him in the media, who are willing to say what needs to be said, even if it puts them in a huge minority. It was clear the guy (Dave is it?) in the studio, wanted to move on as quickly as possible to a differing viewpoint, because it clearly didnt fit the narrative that City are a disgrace to football and life in general.
If CAS can't process the case by this summer, are we still banned next season or does it automatically get suspended?
Seperate issues yes.Two totally separate issues and that event has been whitewashed from history.
It was said somewhere that we have to apply for the ban to be suspended when we appeal. It was suggested that if the ban is suspended it points to a favorable result for City.
I hope the Sheikh has a team scrutinising public statements - including those on Fan sites - for potential libel, and uses our very strict English libel law to his advantage. Could end up closing a few of the bastards down altogether.
Sounds good...fab alty v. City derby
drink beer in the stands
FFS This is playing into exactly what Liew has accused us of in his article.
Who cares?
You think whatever is written on here has any influence whatsoever on what he writes?
The man is a grade A prick. If that makes me sub human scum in his eyes so be it, i couldn't give a fuck to be honest.
As I said earlier where was he when his fellow Liverpool supporters decided to go on a drunken rampage and murder 39 Juventus fans?
Easy to play this game.
If you want to show credibility as a broadcaster you research where this is going to go rather than the initial opening salvo from Uefa. Neville knows what will happen, anyone with half a brain in the world of football knows what will happen.
The uproar of calling City cheats and reviling in our supposed demise is making the media money. They will push this for their benefit ultimately, the back tracking when common sense prevails will be delicious.[/QUOTE]
It won't happen unfortunately, it'll be like the Sterling reporting.
They were all at it but once he showed them up, they would just revert to general speak instead of stating which reports were out of order from themselves and others.
All we found out is that some of the reporting was unacceptable.......
I think the first task is to get CAS to accept our appeal, then they have to set aside the punishment (that may not be guaranteed), then yes there's going to be a point when UEFA are going to have to decide whether to allow us into next season's competition. I don't know what that point would be. Maybe the draw for the Group stages?If CAS can't process the case by this summer, are we still banned next season or does it automatically get suspended?
I think calling someone a scummy rat because you're upset they accused City fans of talking about people who are on UEFA's side as subhuman scum is the dumbest, least self-aware reaction possible.
No problems.
I dont agree.
I wonder what would happen to any journalist that had the audacity to call Liverpool fans sub human scum?
It's gone beyond criticism of the football club and owner. Now the fans are bring criticised.I hope the Sheikh has a team scrutinising public statements - including those on Fan sites - for potential libel, and uses our very strict English libel law to his advantage. Could end up closing a few of the bastards down altogether.
That's turning the dispute on its head. The club are defending itself.If we were to win an appeal and have the whole thing overturned what do you think it would mean for UEFA and FFP? we have more money and better lawyers than UEFA I'm sure but what would it do to their authority and their ability to enforce FFP in general. My belief is that a compromise will be reached following the CAS hearing rather than a complete reversal because that would probably calm things down but I think our owners are out to destroy UEFA, they have clearly had enough. With all this going on, you watch we will win the CL!
He didn't call City fans sub-human scum. He accused us of talking about people as sub-human scum.
How can be this fucking angry with someone about something they never said?
I don't know why I do it to myself, but had a sneaky peak at RAWK and some of the absolute hysterical drivel on there is hilarious - this one particularly tickled me
"Everyone is complicit in this fraud and cheating scandal. Everyone. from the players, background staff, the manager. Everyone. They all wilfully took the shady money, knowing full well the club were cheating FFP. If you cheat, you get banned. The reputation stain shall NEVER pass. This is football, fans have long memories. This stain on their reputation is permanent. It shall never be lifted. Songs will be sung. The name of Manchester City and Abu Dhabi and indeed the slimy dog Mansour is already soured. Its too late for them now. They know this. Therefore they will bring football down with them. What they have done and are currently doing is unforgivable. They will fling mud and accusations around wildly at each and every tenuous strand they can. The only victim will be football itself."
Not withstanding that we have not had anything proven against us yet, how in the fuck would players and background staff have anything to do with the accounts department? Out of all the supporter bases, it feels like that lot have really been up in arms about this the most for some reason.