UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[nmc]

We'd have spent 100M on Kaka if he didnt bottle it.

Hi Garry

 

[MillionMilesAway]

We'd have spent 100M on Kaka if he didnt bottle it.

Yes, that was one I had in mind.

 

[kippaxneil]

Might sound a tad malicious, but the person I really want to see get his come-uppance in all of this is that utter twunt David Gill ! City have been routinely labelled as cheats this last week, but what do you call the actions of a man who systematically sets out to change the laws of football governance specifically to suit his own team ?? How is that not cheating ?? I would love it if someone found some film of him in compromising positions with a Shetland Pony............... He deserves every shame that comes his way.

Or maybe with Ryan Giggs' wife.....or maybe with Ryan Giggs himself.

 

[SouthStandStander]

Not a hope, that's the 7th or 8th incarnation of the Brexit thread and all were at least 1000 pages long.

Where can I find said Brexit Thread?. I need to put my 2 penneth`s worth in there..

 

[Prater70]

I thought Mbappe deal was a loan deal at first, in order to circumvent FFP.

 

[The blue phantom]

Adressed it here already.

I think that clears it all up then mate, no skull duggery from PSG and Leterme isn't the bent Cùnt everyone is making out to be.

You are the PSG's Rabin and I claim my £10.

 

[Len Rum]

Where can I find said Brexit Thread?. I need to put my 2 penneth`s worth in there..

It's in political sub forum in Off Topic.
There's a Brexit guy called @mcfc1632 on the door.
If you mention my name he might let you in, if not try the name @BobKowalski.

 

[oman0115]

So in a nutshell. If you’re a club who in the past ( Rags, Dippers, insert and of the cartel ) who’ve been successful because you had a financial advantage and could buy any of your rivals players, and thus accumulated millions of fake fans because of this success, you can carry on as you like.

If you’re a club who never had that opportunity, you aren’t allowed the opportunity to do the same, even if you’re a well run club and building for decades. Makes sense.

How is this not anti competitive and a corrupt standpoint?

 

[SouthStandStander]

It's in political sub forum in Off Topic.
There's a Brexit guy called @mcfc1632 on the door.
If you mention my name he might let you in, if not try the name @BobKowalski.

Thanks. Done, feel better now i've contributed.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

So in a nutshell. If you’re a club who in the past ( Rags, Dippers, insert and of the cartel ) who’ve been successful because you had a financial advantage and could buy any of your rivals players, and thus accumulated millions of fake fans because of this success, you can carry on as you like.

If you’re a club who never had that opportunity, you aren’t allowed the opportunity to do the same, even if you’re a well run club and building for decades. Makes sense.

How is this not anti competitive and a corrupt standpoint?

I know we’ve branded them The Cartel, but it’s literally a cartel.

Cartels are illegal in business. Corrupt to the core!

 

[Alex - Not City Matters]

So in a nutshell. If you’re a club who in the past ( Rags, Dippers, insert and of the cartel )

Not even a past. Every football club has had a past (obviously some more successful than others). It just happens that all the cartel clubs were successful at the exact moment football took off as a global sport, becoming increasingly commercialised and saturated with foreign investment from multi-millionaires. If that period had been the 1960s, for example, we could quite easily be talking about 1860 Munich as Germany's cartel club.

This re-writing of the past and particularly how we view history as football fans is especially frustrating.

 

[waspish]

Real Fair Play would be clubs had to operate under a Salary Cap and Transfer Fee Cap. Obviously not everyone could spend the full cap and some clubs would be restricted and would find other ways to top-up salaries (bonuses/player sponsors) so there’d always be unbalance but that’s a fairer way than the version of FFP we’ve been lumped with.

Then it’s be down to how well your club is run and how good your scouting system is.

We had a form of Salary cap beginning of the season then the scum changed the rule because it didn’t benefit them.

 

[HelloCity]

Don’t often post inside information on here, especially when it’s bad news, but been told Moonchester is under investigation by UEFA following his half time race victory against Hammerhead at the Etihad last night. He could be banned from all public events for two seasons if found guilty.

 

[KS55]

Real Fair Play would be clubs had to operate under a Salary Cap and Transfer Fee Cap. Obviously not everyone could spend the full cap and some clubs would be restricted and would find other ways to top-up salaries (bonuses/player sponsors) so there’d always be unbalance but that’s a fairer way than the version of FFP we’ve been lumped with.

Then it’s be down to how well your club is run and how good your scouting system is.

And whose scouting reports you steal.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Not even a past. Every football club has had a past (obviously some more successful than others). It just happens that all the cartel clubs were successful at the exact moment football took off as a global sport, becoming increasingly commercialised and saturated with foreign investment from multi-millionaires. If that period had been the 1960s, for example, we could quite easily be talking about 1860 Munich as Germany's cartel club.

Indeed.

Before any United, Liverpool or Arsenal fan ever dreamt that they’d be a big club; Aston Villa, Blackburn, Sunderland and Everton were already the establishment.

Torino once won 4 Serie A’s in a row and were the biggest club in Italy.

Dynamo Dresden were also once a huge club.

If it was alright for The Cartel to invest heavily to catch up to and overtake these clubs, there’s no reason at all that it’s not alright for different clubs to invest heavily to catch up to and overtake The Cartel.

Football should be cyclical, it should not see the same clubs entrenched at the top. It’s not natural.

 

[sir baconface]

‘Serendipitous coincidence’ is tautological :-)

You might have a point, but at the very least ‘coincidence’ is wholly superfluous, as ‘serendipitous’ manifestly connotes coincidence.

Again, I can't agree. It acts as a legitimate intensifier, emphasising the coincidental nature of the event at a time when some posters are hinting that there may be elements of Abu Dhabi design behind it. ;)

Idioms, oxymorons and now we have our good friend the homonym.

Ah, good old zeugma, not as exciting as epanalepsis. You may not find that in the dictionary as it is a transliteration of a greek figure of speech similar to paraprosdokian.

It’s been a day on Bluemoon when sesquipedalianism has been laid bare, provoking a retaliatory flurry of floccinaucinihilipilification.

 

[domalino]

Real Fair Play would be clubs had to operate under a Salary Cap and Transfer Fee Cap. Obviously not everyone could spend the full cap and some clubs would be restricted and would find other ways to top-up salaries (bonuses/player sponsors) so there’d always be unbalance but that’s a fairer way than the version of FFP we’ve been lumped with.

Then it’s be down to how well your club is run and how good your scouting system is.

I would allow transfer fees to be unrestricted as long as you comply to the salary cap. Both is kind of unnecessary.

Credits against the salary cap for HG players and/or players you sign under X fee, so developing your own players or scouting gems (Liverpool singing Robertson, us signing Zinchenko, Leicester signing Mahrez etc.) is rewarded. Maybe 100% for a kid like Foden who has been at the club since he was 9, getting lower and lower as the age the kid joined until signing someone like Zinch is only 25%.

Strict limits on debt. Max # of loan players.

And let the best managed club win.

You could even allow things like designated players who don't count against the cap, luxury taxes from the NBA so you can pay up to x amount over the cap but only if you pay a % tax to do it, which is distributed to the other clubs.

No solution is perfect, but other sports have spent 50+ years working on ways to create a level playing field and avoid monopolies. It's not impossible.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Thanks. Done, feel better now i've contributed.

Strange, I feel Jaded and cheap staggering out of there, then again I feel that way going in.

 

[remember arthur mann]

It’s been a day on Bluemoon when sesquipedalianism has been laid bare, provoking a retaliatory flurry of floccinaucinihilipilification.

 

[Grealish’s Shinpads]

Thanks. Done, feel better now i've contributed.

You really showed them