UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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That made me laugh @Prestwich_Blue knows fuck all:)
He's right. I just bullshit really. The fact that Delaney was presented wth Stefan's forensic document yet refused to read it as it was "impenetrable" tells you all you need to know. He's an ostrich, with his head in the sand (except that an ostrich could probably write better stuff than Delaney).

And funnily enough, one of the first things I saw when II looked at Twitter just now was this:
 
I muted Deleney on Twitter in the summer. He’s a bit of a weirdo - he’s the Twitter equivalent of a pub bore

He's searching his own name on a Man City fan forum?

This admission alone, confirms he should be pitied rather than abused.

Delaney, sadly, must have a few areas of his life which are lacking serious fulfilment, a need for validation from unknown people on the internet, whether good or bad.

So long as he believes people know he exists, perhaps even that he himself knows he exists.

Classic symptoms.
 
He's right. I just bullshit really. The fact that Delaney was presented wth Stefan's forensic document yet refused to read it as it was "impenetrable" tells you all you need to know. He's an ostrich, with his head in the sand (except that an ostrich could probably write better stuff than Delaney).

And funnily enough, one of the first things I saw when II looked at Twitter just now was this:


Slight point of order - There is no record of any ostrich anywhere been witnessed to have its head in sand. Apparently
 
He's searching his own name on a Man City fan forum?

This admission alone, confirms he should be pitied rather than abused.

Delaney, sadly, must have a few areas of his life which are lacking serious fulfilment, a need for valadition from unknown people on the internet, whether good or bad.

So long as he believes people know he exists, perhaps even that he himself knows he exists.

Classic symptoms.
Absolutely. I was thinking this the other day. Most journalists don't engage, although some will if you make an intelligent point. But Delaney, Nick Harris and Simon Bajkowski at the MEN all get involved in stupid little spats, getting personal and often abusive. I tried to work out why and came to the same conclusion; to validate their own existence. It's the modern manifestation of Oscar Wilde's witticism that there's only one thing worse than being talked about and that's not being talked about.
 
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He's searching his own name on a Man City fan forum?

This admission alone, confirms he should be pitied rather than abused.

Delaney, sadly, must have a few areas of his life which are lacking serious fulfilment, a need for valadition from unknown people on the internet, whether good or bad.

So long as he believes people know he exists, perhaps even that he himself knows he exists.

Classic symptoms.

Personally just think he’s being paid by another party to put out his current narrative about City.

I remember him being reasonably level headed but he seemed to just completely change as the title race between City and Liverpool got more and more intense.
 
I have to say that I never realised how illustrious and well placed within the corridors of UEFA is this forums membership. That said I didn't realise how many said members aren't blues.
 
A little. not to the extent the papers big up, but, the FA did say, when uefa first opened their investigation, that they will open their own. So, it is not impossible that whatever the ourcome of one is will influence the other.

The media ARE being totally liberal with the timeline, and the amounts, which i struggle to buy into, but still, it does have a niggle of unease.
The PL, not the FA. The FA investigation was regarding Jadon Sancho's purchase from Watford for which we were totally cleared.
 
Absolutely. I was thinking this the other day. Most journalists don't engage, although some will if you make an intelligent point. But Delaney, Nick Harris and Simon Bajkowski at the MEN all get involved in stupid little spats, getting personal and often abusive. I tried to work out why and came to the ame conclusion; to validate their own existence. It's the modern manifestation of Oscar Wilde's witticism that there's only one thing worse than being talked about and that's not being talked about.
Delaney has tweeted over 265,000 times in under 10 years. That roughly works out at around 80 tweets per day so I reckon he must be on social media for at least 3-4 hours a day. Every day. That is not healthy for anyone
 
Yes it does, if you beleive how some reports put it. i think if you are out of uefa comps, they supposedly dont look at your books for that period, u can spend what you want (as long as u comply with FAs limits, which i thought were scrapped).

that is reportedly the reason AC milan accepted a one year ban, when it looked like cas were going to overturn it (originally 2 years). it was looking like they might finish 5th anyway, so be out of it, and it gave them a further year to 'rebuild'.

The years liverpool were 7th and out of champs league, they spent big, conveniently, not halving to comply till they were in it. (other than of course liverpool never spent any money at all, as all their players are home grown).

If you're correct then I'm labouring and maybe many other people under a fundamental misapprehension about FFP. I always thought it applied to all clubs all the time whether they were in European competitions or not. Anyone know for certain? Prestwich Blue?
 
Delaney has tweeted over 265,000 times in under 10 years. That roughly works out at around 80 tweets per day so I reckon he must be on social media for at least 3-4 hours a day. Every day. That is not healthy for anyone
Well he doesn't need to take much time to actually write anything. He just tidies up the press releases he gets from the Liverpool PR team.
 
People need to seriously chill.

We will tie this down in litigation for years to come if we don't get completely exonerated.

That alone, will be enough to guarantee the Premier League stay completely on the sidelines until all avenues have been exhausted.

Everything is just hopeful white noise on the part of people who have only ever had bad things to say about us from minute one.

Let's not add to it by being irrational. Uefa have already shown their cards, we have yet to reveal our full hand.

Instead of people flapping, realise that UEFA and the media have shot their respective bolts; City haven't and won't until absolutely necessary.

That's why the likes of Panja, Delaney and Rob wotsit get frustrated and have been reduced to simply regurgitating and agitating with the same old news, essentially for clicks.
 
I think enough information has come out that we can already take a stab at what happened or at least Citys version of it.

The out of context emails say ADUG paid for Etihad which would be breaking FFP. We now know thanks to @Prestwich_Blue that this is not what actually happened and the executive council paid - fine by FFP.

Leterme has a history of ignoring evidence he doesn't like without justification. This is known from the PSG case where he ignored independent valuation to benefit PSG despite the objections of the other people on the investigatory panel.

If ADUG did not pay the sponsorship this would be recorded in bank statements/transfers which would be conclusive and "irrefutable"


Soriano says that the CFCB relied more on the out of context emails than anything the club gave them.


A possible narrative is forming about what happened in the IC.

But what are the AC doing in all this? Why did they rubber stamp it if it's so easily overturned at CAS, which it would be if that's what happened.

3 possible answers:

1) There is credible evidence that City broke FFP rules, although City seem incredibly sure of their ground on this
2) There is wrongly interpreted/circumstancial evidence that City broke FFP rules, but why on earth would the AC come out with such a harsh penalty against City if this were the case?
3) EUFA politics, we've become too big for our boots in some people's eyes - by which I mean we have broken their nice cosy cartel which generated them each £50-£100m a year because of their history. Also don't forget the way the CL prize money was altered to further reward the 'istry clubs - that seems to have been largely forgotten about on this thread, that's a prime example of self-serving corruption right there.


I am actually starting to love all this drama, I just hope it ends decisively one way OR the other. We either blow EUFA apart or we go back to York away (I didn't get there 1st time around so has to be on the bucket list...), either will be a fun ride!


City 'Til I Die
 
I think enough information has come out that we can already take a stab at what happened or at least Citys version of it.

The out of context emails say ADUG paid for Etihad which would be breaking FFP. We now know thanks to @Prestwich_Blue that this is not what actually happened and the executive council paid - fine by FFP.

Leterme has a history of ignoring evidence he doesn't like without justification. This is known from the PSG case where he ignored independent valuation to benefit PSG despite the objections of the other people on the investigatory panel.

If ADUG did not pay the sponsorship this would be recorded in bank statements/transfers which would be conclusive and "irrefutable"


Soriano says that the CFCB relied more on the out of context emails than anything the club gave them.


A possible narrative is forming about what happened in the IC.

But what are the AC doing in all this? Why did they rubber stamp it if it's so easily overturned at CAS, which it would be if that's what happened.
Because the AC only considered the evidence from the IC which made their case in haste due the 5 year time out The IC wanted to believe that City are guilty due to the agenda

Leterme has a history of ignoring evidence in his career outside of football as well
 
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