UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Newman Noggs said:
It also depends when we got the questions they required answers to . If that's an issue, CAS would look at the whole chronology to see whether any delay in submitting our dossier was reasonable.

Having been in this position several times, I've always found that Courts lean heavily towards allowing more generous time to those under investigation in order to demonstrate "fairness" of process.

I'm never confident of Court proceedings but I do know that being up against time limitations leads to haste which leads to mistakes and I hope that's the case here.
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I feel that our owners and their legal team will have not seen CAS as a cul de sac but merely a roundabout to be negotiated with options to continue whatever its outcome.
 
domalino said:
A more interesting question IMO is what liability do individuals have?

Yves Leterme is the 1 person the club have accused of inproper conduct. We know from the PSG case that as the head of the IC he has total power, and was able to summarily dismiss the objections of his colleagues without reason.

If he is the single person who has stopped the club from giving their evidence and made his ruling, then he is the single person responsible for all of the reputation damage done by his decision and his reaction to the accusation of leaking was the very definition of protesting too much.

So what exposure to civil or criminal action does he have personally if we get cleared, and he didn't follow the process he was supposed to?
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Leterme has form

A recent report by the consultancy firm KPMG had reported that Yves Leterme had an "authoritarian" management of Idea and a lack of collective decision-making power. The report also referred to cases of discrimination, preferential treatment and harassment.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/0...ister-yves-leterme-will-have-to-leave-the-id/
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
I was looking at the thread at the time, and to be fair to said ‘blogger’, who for the avoidance of doubt is an articulate and talented City writer, the point that he made (namely that Rabin piling in with a trademark expose on what one of the journalists the ‘blogger’ was trying to have a sensible debate with, had said previously, wasn’t really helpful in the circumstances) had some validity IMO. It would be disappointing if Rabin has closed his account as a result of the altercation. He really has no need to
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He likened Rabin to an irritating drunk. Pretty unpleasant in the circumstances. And your 'articulate' is my 'verbose'.
 
Newman Noggs said:
Whilst we're speculating, I"m interested in this newly-embraced and much-touted concept that the rules may be corrupt but we "signed up to them" so it doesn't matter.

Setting aside the idea that you can compete in football without CL money, I'd love to see the "contract" we "signed" up to. Presumably there is some sort of contractual obligation on UEFA to administer the competition and its processes fairly. Even if there isn"t, it would surely be implicit given the required trust between the parties.

Proven breach of that agreement by UEFA would be an interesting situation given that we know the size of the financial penalties UEFA would like to impose on us. And that's before you start on the other financial implications.
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Sign-up for won't stand well in law as its almost a ransom demand, especially as UEFA are a commercial organisation that competes with the clubs for sponsorship and stops the competing clubs promoting their sponsors on match days
 
razman said:


lol...nonsense
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This was reported in the Daily Fail today. I made a comment suggesting that the suggestion that City had inflated the transfer market was a piss take. I even suggested that the story may be false and if for one second it was true that the perpetrators are mostly likely the top 6 clubs in the EPL

Some idiot from Australia replied to my comment as utter babble.

I responded by asking him to name one player we have bought that has broken the world or British transfer record.

Yep you guessed it, I'm still waiting
 
BillCarlisle Ex-Manchester said:
Edited : same guy on VAR (not the ref).
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Real Madrid CF (ESP) - Manchester City FC (ENG)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bo Karlsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Nebojša Ivković (SRB)

The Italian Job
 
Steadfast said:
This was reported in the Daily Fail today. I made a comment suggesting that the suggestion that City had inflated the transfer market was a piss take. I even suggested that the story may be false and if for one second it was true that the perpetrators are mostly likely the top 6 clubs in the EPL

Some idiot from Australia replied to my comment as utter babble.

I responded by asking him to name one player we have bought that has broken the world or British transfer record.

Yep you guessed it, I'm still waiting
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Inflated the transfer market? D Silva, B Silva, Yaya, Sergio, VK, PZ, Leroy cost less combined that Pogbad and Lukaku, and none of them come close to the wages the scum still pay for Sanchez. Inflating player fees and wages my arse
 
KS55 said:
Syed wrote in his first article on this subject that City agreed to the rules, so must abide by them, even if they disagreed with them. Ok in theory, but: 'Agreed'. .?
IIRC, G14 rejected Platini's rules and wrote their own, threatening to pull out of the CL if UEFA did not agree to their terms. The then President of REAL said "ffp is coming, the clubs want them....."
At this point only G14 had agreed to them and the rest of us had no opportunity to make our points.
UEFA then made it clear that clubs had to sign up to them in order to play in their competitions.
Hardly " Agreement".
It is clear to me that the control body should not also run the primary club competition in Europe.
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Further to what you say, we signed up to rules and were told that they were to be interpreted in a particular way. Once we handed in our books UEFA changed its interpretation of said rule. We didn't sign up for that and any **** (Syed) who thinks this is honest practice is a cheat and party to corruption.
 
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Gordyola said:
Sign-up for won't stand well in law as its almost a ransom demand, especially as UEFA are a commercial organisation that competes with the clubs for sponsorship and stops the competing clubs promoting their sponsors on match days
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I think UEFA will struggle IF challenged regarding their policy of effectively allowing 14 clubs to run the organisation in their own best interests and to hell with all the other affiliates and members. I’d expect the law to take a view that a sport’s governing body should have a structure and decision making process that reflects its wider membership and the wider interests of the sport.
 
Keeper! said:
Watch your back Ed.
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He would be best by saving some of his carbon footprint by not attending any of them , benefits , what benefits other than ensuring Manure no matter how poorly the club is run by people such as himself on and off the pitch don't breach the moving goal post that is FFP.
 
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