UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Gordyola]

What's PWC ?

Price Waterhouse Cooper the audit firm used by UEFA

 

[deano ou812]

The below is taking from a post a few pages back listing UEFA"s options for reopening cases. If UEFA are going with the line I have highlighted then do dates not go out the window?

3 Cases related to doping, fraud, bribery, corruption or match-fixing offences are not subject to the above limitations and can be reopened at any time.

Only reopened if uefa don’t get their cut ;-)

 

[Gordyola]

Interesting from 2018 Nothing new to most but will answer a few questions for the late comers to the thread
https://sports.inquirer.net/326059/manchester-city-threats-to-uefa-revealed-in-leaked-documents

 

[mccity]

I’m not sure UEFA are that arsed about losing. They’ve lost cases at CAS before and don’t appear to give much of a shit if it turns out they got it wrong. Obviously, this is a very high profile case but it’s probably a lot more damaging to us if we lose than it is to UEFA if they lose.

At face value you're 100% correct. But that's all assuming this is just about UEFA wanting to penalise City over FFP, with FFP being treated solely as a means of financial control with no ulterior motives.

I can only speculate but I feel this is a last chance saloon for all the clubs working against City, and with all the internal politics with UEFA at the centre (almost like the PL is with the Newcastle takeover) a City success here could cause UEFA a host of trouble from other clubs out there.

 

[HolisticJim]

Yep, I said the other day that this looks like a free swing for uefa. Compared to City they have nothing to lose.

I think what they have to lose is that if City win then we may very well then start suing for damages which could be huge.

 

[mike1923]

What's PWC ?

Assume Price Waterhouse Cooper, the auditors

 

[Silva2021]

If we win we would not sue for damages in my opinion. If we where to have the ability to do that, I think we would attempt to leverage it for a place on the board.

Once on the inside we can then arrange with our friends and other board members how to stop Newcastle. They are attempting to spend money they have not earned and sportingly that is not correct. We need to find a way to stop them as otherwise they will inflate the transfer market to such a level that it makes it tough for cubs who do it the right way to compete!!

 

[cheekybids]

If we win we would not sue for damages in my opinion. If we where to have the ability to do that, I think we would attempt to leverage it for a place on the board.

Once on the inside we can then arrange with our friends and other board members how to stop Newcastle. They are attempting to spend money they have not earned and sportingly that is not correct. We need to find a way to stop them as otherwise they will inflate the transfer market to such a level that it makes it tough for cubs who do it the right way to compete!!

& they have no history or fans ;)

 

[Zabbasbeard]

To back up Ric's posting of yesterday, without getting too carried away.

A contact has stated this afternoon a hearing which was extremely respectful and also 'very positive'.

I have not spoken to Ric and can be 100 per cent confident this is from a separate source.

Dare I say that's very encouraging... Thanks yet again Tolm!

 

[kaz7]

Not sure if this is the right place for this but Barca & RM ask Spanish Government for 200 million euros to pay wages - how would you write this off for FFP?

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020...vernment-for-e200-million-to-pay-top-players/

That pesky detail does not bother them,they have tebas to get them out of trouble

 

[kaz7]

Totally agree but ...."cult"?

He forgot where he was for a minute ;)

 

[oldius]

That pesky detail does not bother them,they have tebas to get them out of trouble

They were previously prosecuted for illegal state support.

 

[blueyorkie]

I think what they have to lose is that if City win then we may very well then start suing for damages which could be huge.

In order to do that we would have to quantify losses which is very difficult to do, ask yourself to quantify our losses? Don’t get me wrong I would love to see us walk away with countless millions from the various anti City media corporations & cartel clubs

 

[Ric]

I think what they have to lose is that if City win then we may very well then start suing for damages which could be huge.

That will not happen.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Prefer the Tremeloes version

Ah, the Tremeloes. Beneficiaries of arguably the worst ever commercial decision taken in the history of the entertainment industry. In January 1962, Decca records had two bands in their studio for auditions. The producer had only been given enough money to sign one however. He chose the Tremeloes. Ironically, Decca then spent more money on a lavish lunch to placate the manager of the unsuccessful band - a Mr Brian Epstein of Liverpool - than it would have cost them to sign both bands.
A bit of light relief ahead of another day of fretting over disguised owner investment and audited accounts......

 

[flook]

If we win we would not sue for damages in my opinion. If we where to have the ability to do that, I think we would attempt to leverage it for a place on the board.

Once on the inside we can then arrange with our friends and other board members how to stop Newcastle. They are attempting to spend money they have not earned and sportingly that is not correct. We need to find a way to stop them as otherwise they will inflate the transfer market to such a level that it makes it tough for cubs who do it the right way to compete!!

classic poacher turns gamekeeper story :)

 

[richards30]

Surely the only issue is who paid the money?

 

[Prater70]

Who's got the best chance of getting off, us or Yasmeen?

 

[Bill]

If we win we would not sue for damages in my opinion. If we where to have the ability to do that, I think we would attempt to leverage it for a place on the board.

Once on the inside we can then arrange with our friends and other board members how to stop Newcastle. They are attempting to spend money they have not earned and sportingly that is not correct. We need to find a way to stop them as otherwise they will inflate the transfer market to such a level that it makes it tough for cubs who do it the right way to compete!!

we should welcome clubs that will break the cartel.

 

[Coatigan]

Quite a detailed piece on this website and that time-barred aspect is "misjudged"...

https://www.footballlaw.co.uk/articles/mcfc-uefa-ffp-and-the-cas

This is a comment on the above article, and not the overall situation as such, for which i'm not qualified to have that type of opinion on.

IF any of the above is true, Or even if it is not true but is legally relevant, and we can't damn well effectively disprove it...

Then we are well and truly totally fucked. We'd be bloody lucky to be able to hope for a 1 year ban at the ultimate best.

Again, i say that as a response to just the article above.