UFO sightings from around the gaff....

Funnily enough my colleagues in Tower approach have been asked this morning to dig out radar recordings from last night between 2330 - 0000.
Apparently a witness who also is a seasoned pilot observed a UFO over an area covered by our control zone and he witnessed this craft zig zagging about and then just vanish!


Must remember when i am next in to see if anything was recorded or found.
 
Grolsch30 said:
Funnily enough my colleagues in Tower approach have been asked this morning to dig out radar recordings from last night between 2330 - 0000.
Apparently a witness who also is a seasoned pilot observed a UFO over an area covered by our control zone and he witnessed this craft zig zagging about and then just vanish!


Must remember when i am next in to see if anything was recorded or found.

Cases like these are always the most interesting ones. I assume the findings will be swamp gas :).
 
Unknown_Genius said:
Roscoe Hillenkoetter was the first director of the CIA, and formed the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. He admitted the existence of UFOs and wanted public disclosure of evidence.

Perhaps Hillenkoetter's best-known statement on the subject was in 1960 in a letter to Congress, as reported in the New York Times: "Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense."

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._Hillenkoetter#Board_Member_of_NICAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._ ... r_of_NICAP</a>

So there we have a person in a high position, with access to knowledge and secrets the public know nothing about, saying they exist. Here's an interesting link about John F Kennedy's interest in UFOs:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-jfk-ufo-connection-bogus-documents-or-unanswered-questions/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-j ... questions/</a>

Speaking of presidents, Jimmy Carter has witnessed a UFO:

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident</a>

The sighting is said to have had a personal impact on Carter and his perception of UFO and UFO sightings. During his 1976 election campaign, he is said to have told reporters that, as a result of it, he would institute a policy of openness if he were elected to office, saying:

"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."

Despite his earlier pledge, once elected, Carter distanced himself from disclosure, citing "defense implications" as being behind his decision.

The most convincing thing for me though is this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RPWhigpQg[/youtube]

It gets really interesting 5 minutes in, and you hear Edgar Mitchell's interview.

People often say there is never any evidence left behind. Well then...

<a class="postlink" href="http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-physical-trace-evidence-ufo-cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-ph ... -ufo-cases</a>

Just read about the Delphos case in Kansas. UFOs leaving behind evidence, who'd have thunk?

There is so much stuff out there, which all points in the direction there is something out there we do not understand, and have yet to know everything about. Yes, people today mostly dismiss it, and paint anyone who believes in it as some kind of nutjob. The problem is some folks don't want their world rocked, and just believe whatever their TV, newspapers, and 'official sources' state. My view is there's so much we don't understand, both about our own planet and the universe. As Socrates once said: “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” To suggest we know everything, and there is nothing to look at anymore, is arrogant.
great post it does make you think what is out there, one things for sure we aren't alone<br /><br />-- Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:29 pm --<br /><br />
Unknown_Genius said:
Roscoe Hillenkoetter was the first director of the CIA, and formed the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. He admitted the existence of UFOs and wanted public disclosure of evidence.

Perhaps Hillenkoetter's best-known statement on the subject was in 1960 in a letter to Congress, as reported in the New York Times: "Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense."

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._Hillenkoetter#Board_Member_of_NICAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._ ... r_of_NICAP</a>

So there we have a person in a high position, with access to knowledge and secrets the public know nothing about, saying they exist. Here's an interesting link about John F Kennedy's interest in UFOs:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-jfk-ufo-connection-bogus-documents-or-unanswered-questions/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-j ... questions/</a>

Speaking of presidents, Jimmy Carter has witnessed a UFO:

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident</a>

The sighting is said to have had a personal impact on Carter and his perception of UFO and UFO sightings. During his 1976 election campaign, he is said to have told reporters that, as a result of it, he would institute a policy of openness if he were elected to office, saying:

"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."

Despite his earlier pledge, once elected, Carter distanced himself from disclosure, citing "defense implications" as being behind his decision.

The most convincing thing for me though is this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RPWhigpQg[/youtube]

It gets really interesting 5 minutes in, and you hear Edgar Mitchell's interview.

People often say there is never any evidence left behind. Well then...

<a class="postlink" href="http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-physical-trace-evidence-ufo-cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-ph ... -ufo-cases</a>

Just read about the Delphos case in Kansas. UFOs leaving behind evidence, who'd have thunk?

There is so much stuff out there, which all points in the direction there is something out there we do not understand, and have yet to know everything about. Yes, people today mostly dismiss it, and paint anyone who believes in it as some kind of nutjob. The problem is some folks don't want their world rocked, and just believe whatever their TV, newspapers, and 'official sources' state. My view is there's so much we don't understand, both about our own planet and the universe. As Socrates once said: “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” To suggest we know everything, and there is nothing to look at anymore, is arrogant.
great post it does make you think what is out there, one things for sure we aren't alone
 
Unknown_Genius said:
Roscoe Hillenkoetter was the first director of the CIA, and formed the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. He admitted the existence of UFOs and wanted public disclosure of evidence.

Perhaps Hillenkoetter's best-known statement on the subject was in 1960 in a letter to Congress, as reported in the New York Times: "Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense."

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._Hillenkoetter#Board_Member_of_NICAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._ ... r_of_NICAP</a>

So there we have a person in a high position, with access to knowledge and secrets the public know nothing about, saying they exist. Here's an interesting link about John F Kennedy's interest in UFOs:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-jfk-ufo-connection-bogus-documents-or-unanswered-questions/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-j ... questions/</a>

Speaking of presidents, Jimmy Carter has witnessed a UFO:

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident</a>

The sighting is said to have had a personal impact on Carter and his perception of UFO and UFO sightings. During his 1976 election campaign, he is said to have told reporters that, as a result of it, he would institute a policy of openness if he were elected to office, saying:

"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."

Despite his earlier pledge, once elected, Carter distanced himself from disclosure, citing "defense implications" as being behind his decision.

The most convincing thing for me though is this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RPWhigpQg[/youtube]

It gets really interesting 5 minutes in, and you hear Edgar Mitchell's interview.

People often say there is never any evidence left behind. Well then...

<a class="postlink" href="http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-physical-trace-evidence-ufo-cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-ph ... -ufo-cases</a>

Just read about the Delphos case in Kansas. UFOs leaving behind evidence, who'd have thunk?

There is so much stuff out there, which all points in the direction there is something out there we do not understand, and have yet to know everything about. Yes, people today mostly dismiss it, and paint anyone who believes in it as some kind of nutjob. The problem is some folks don't want their world rocked, and just believe whatever their TV, newspapers, and 'official sources' state. My view is there's so much we don't understand, both about our own planet and the universe. As Socrates once said: “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” To suggest we know everything, and there is nothing to look at anymore, is arrogant.

Quality post!
 
lukyman said:
Unknown_Genius said:
Roscoe Hillenkoetter was the first director of the CIA, and formed the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. He admitted the existence of UFOs and wanted public disclosure of evidence.

Perhaps Hillenkoetter's best-known statement on the subject was in 1960 in a letter to Congress, as reported in the New York Times: "Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense."

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._Hillenkoetter#Board_Member_of_NICAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_H._ ... r_of_NICAP</a>

So there we have a person in a high position, with access to knowledge and secrets the public know nothing about, saying they exist. Here's an interesting link about John F Kennedy's interest in UFOs:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-jfk-ufo-connection-bogus-documents-or-unanswered-questions/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/18/the-j ... questions/</a>

Speaking of presidents, Jimmy Carter has witnessed a UFO:

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident</a>

The sighting is said to have had a personal impact on Carter and his perception of UFO and UFO sightings. During his 1976 election campaign, he is said to have told reporters that, as a result of it, he would institute a policy of openness if he were elected to office, saying:

"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."

Despite his earlier pledge, once elected, Carter distanced himself from disclosure, citing "defense implications" as being behind his decision.

The most convincing thing for me though is this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RPWhigpQg[/youtube]

It gets really interesting 5 minutes in, and you hear Edgar Mitchell's interview.

People often say there is never any evidence left behind. Well then...

<a class="postlink" href="http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-physical-trace-evidence-ufo-cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://spacetime.forumotion.com/t944-ph ... -ufo-cases</a>

Just read about the Delphos case in Kansas. UFOs leaving behind evidence, who'd have thunk?

There is so much stuff out there, which all points in the direction there is something out there we do not understand, and have yet to know everything about. Yes, people today mostly dismiss it, and paint anyone who believes in it as some kind of nutjob. The problem is some folks don't want their world rocked, and just believe whatever their TV, newspapers, and 'official sources' state. My view is there's so much we don't understand, both about our own planet and the universe. As Socrates once said: “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” To suggest we know everything, and there is nothing to look at anymore, is arrogant.

Quality post!

Also no naysayers with any comebacks, im glad tbh so now they can let us loonies to be well, loonies:)
 
I have checked the links and it is all just speculation with no genuine evidence.

Humans are pattern seeking creatures and if we can't immediatley identify something our mind struggles furiously to give a sense of perspective (an acceptable reasoning to them). I would point to the crop circles as an example of this.
Our minds are easily duped or fooled.

If we are to believe we are visited as often as the speculatory "evidence" suggests no one given government could hide all the physical evidence.

We see hundreds of reports such as...

"Report 07/13/69 Van Horne, Iowa 2300: multiple witness, disc, 40 ft circular area- dehydrated in soybean field."

It is simply an unexplained phenomenon with no proof.

Again it's all "eye witnesses" and nothing tangible.

It's just lazy to say "i can't explain it so it must be ET"

If all humanity carried this mentality we would still be in caves.
 
TCIB said:
I have checked the links and it is all just speculation with no genuine evidence.

Humans are pattern seeking creatures and if we can't immediatley identify something our mind struggles furiously to give a sense of perspective (an acceptable reasoning to them). I would point to the crop circles as an example of this.
Our minds are easily duped or fooled.

If we are to believe we are visited as often as the speculatory "evidence" suggests no one given government could hide all the physical evidence.

We see hundreds of reports such as...

"Report 07/13/69 Van Horne, Iowa 2300: multiple witness, disc, 40 ft circular area- dehydrated in soybean field."

It is simply an unexplained phenomenon with no proof.

Again it's all "eye witnesses" and nothing tangible.

It's just lazy to say "i can't explain it so it must be ET"

If all humanity carried this mentality we would still be in caves.

Yes but as i pointed out to you, you seem readily to believe what Science or so called intelligencia reporting and books etc but you just dismiss people that have actually and still are working high ranking officials ie on the fantastic post above. Safe to say my bets are totally hedged on their being something out there, and you say again about Governments could not cover up all the so called sightings, wanna bet?
 
TCIB said:
I have checked the links and it is all just speculation with no genuine evidence.

Humans are pattern seeking creatures and if we can't immediatley identify something our mind struggles furiously to give a sense of perspective (an acceptable reasoning to them). I would point to the crop circles as an example of this.
Our minds are easily duped or fooled.

If we are to believe we are visited as often as the speculatory "evidence" suggests no one given government could hide all the physical evidence.

We see hundreds of reports such as...

"Report 07/13/69 Van Horne, Iowa 2300: multiple witness, disc, 40 ft circular area- dehydrated in soybean field."

It is simply an unexplained phenomenon with no proof.

Again it's all "eye witnesses" and nothing tangible.

It's just lazy to say "i can't explain it so it must be ET"

If all humanity carried this mentality we would still be in caves.


Galileo
Louis Pasteur
Mendel
Watson and Crick

Each ushered in new scientific paradigms

It has to start somewhere....afterall 'chance favours only the mind that is prepared'
 
DenisLawBackHeel74 said:
TCIB said:
I have checked the links and it is all just speculation with no genuine evidence.

Humans are pattern seeking creatures and if we can't immediatley identify something our mind struggles furiously to give a sense of perspective (an acceptable reasoning to them). I would point to the crop circles as an example of this.
Our minds are easily duped or fooled.

If we are to believe we are visited as often as the speculatory "evidence" suggests no one given government could hide all the physical evidence.

We see hundreds of reports such as...

"Report 07/13/69 Van Horne, Iowa 2300: multiple witness, disc, 40 ft circular area- dehydrated in soybean field."

It is simply an unexplained phenomenon with no proof.

Again it's all "eye witnesses" and nothing tangible.

It's just lazy to say "i can't explain it so it must be ET"

If all humanity carried this mentality we would still be in caves.


Galileo
Louis Pasteur
Mendel
Watson and Crick

Each ushered in new scientific paradigms

It has to start somewhere....afterall 'chance favours only the mind that is prepared'

I agree and hope we do find life in the fashion Buzzer would like, it would be cool beyong belief.

The difference is the people you mention wanted to test, test and test again.

It seems Buzzer and similar mindsets seem quiet happy believing the "evidence" we have as an absolute truth they exist here.

This equates to a faith similar to religion which is to science anyway, very lazy.

Do you think Watson and Crick just thought, "meh we are close enough, Darwin did the legwork lets go home" ?, exactly it would be considered lazy.

Edit:: "wanna bet" How old are you ?

My point stands there is no proven or accepted evidence for conscious alien life.


The likelyhood of all possible alien tangible evidence covered by governments ?
I know you like this stuff but they get next to no funding and could barely look after a car park let alone be able to map out the world and detect all tangible alien evidence.

That i would say is close to ludicrous, i have yet to see a government competant of running domestic affairs let alone manipulating advanced scientific technology to cover up alien encounters.
 

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