Ufo's, for those that are INTERESTED.

[BulgarianPride]

The likelihood of you seeing anything so far out again mate are definately feasible indeed, soon i am getting some decent night vision equipmnt so heres hoping i get some decent stuff. Thanks for sharing your experience, warms my heart.

-- Tue May 04, 2010 2:48 pm --



Thanks for banging that on mate, seeing as your one of the sensible posters on here and as far as i can see, well respected on both sides of the Conspiracy fence. I reckon if one or two on here would have posted that footage it would have been savaged off some non-believers(as it were), well i will ask those non-believers to come on here and explain Bulgarian Pride' footage, and you know what angle he is coming from so you know he is not a wacko.

PS, unless its someone with a torch(es) stood on the ground pointing it to the sky and agitating it, well that is some top footage. Cheers BP.

Is it not more likely that the light in the sky, whatever it is (could be Venus?), is actually stationary and it's the camera that's moving around and zooming in & out?

It's funny how this type of video rarely has any other reference points in it to prove that this is not the case.

Sorry mate, not Venus. It was moving! Look at 26secs into my video. You will see a smaller thing moving in the opposite direction.
I was moving the camera trying to center it, that is all. Venus is not there anyways( where i was pointing the camera to). I have a cheap camera that is rated at 0 lux. If i have a lower lux camera i should be able to pick up one or two stars as reference points, but then again its moving so i would have to move the camera. Just take my word for it, its not venus or any other star. I saw it with my two eyes.

 

[Anonymous]

Is it not more likely that the light in the sky, whatever it is (could be Venus?), is actually stationary and it's the camera that's moving around and zooming in & out?

It's funny how this type of video rarely has any other reference points in it to prove that this is not the case.

Sorry mate, not Venus. It was moving! Look at 26secs into my video. You will see a smaller thing moving in the opposite direction.
I was moving the camera trying to center it, that is all. Venus is not there anyways( where i was pointing the camera to). I have a cheap camera that is rated at 0 lux. If i have a lower lux camera i should be able to pick up one or two stars as reference points, but then again its moving so i would have to move the camera. Just take my word for it, its not venus or any other star. I saw it with my two eyes.

I'm just pointing out how the video could be interpreted in an entirely logical way mate.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

Yes mate, i favourited that when i was sent the link, my laptop went tits up so i'll save it to me PC now, cheers mate. Just wish we could have some nice clear nights, did you catch the footage that BulgarianPride posted?

Just about to comb through this thread a bit more.

Seen the footage. The one that zooms past halfway through is interesting, it just appears suddenly. The brighter dot vanishes at the end too, good find.

 

[Skip Donoghue]

Sorry mate, not Venus. It was moving! Look at 26secs into my video. You will see a smaller thing moving in the opposite direction.
I was moving the camera trying to center it, that is all. Venus is not there anyways( where i was pointing the camera to). I have a cheap camera that is rated at 0 lux. If i have a lower lux camera i should be able to pick up one or two stars as reference points, but then again its moving so i would have to move the camera. Just take my word for it, its not venus or any other star. I saw it with my two eyes.

I'm just pointing out how the video could be interpreted in an entirely logical way mate.

it could be the international space station (ISS) it moves very quickly across the sky and when the sun hits it, it is very bright and has been mistaken for a UFO on numerous occasions i actually saw it myself last night and have seen it many times

but the thing i find interesting about the video that could blow the ISS theory out of the water is the introduction of the second light at 26secs but that could be a satellite reflecting in the sun going in the opposite direction
interesting footage all the same

 

[BulgarianPride]

I'm just pointing out how the video could be interpreted in an entirely logical way mate.

it could be the international space station (ISS) it moves very quickly across the sky and when the sun hits it, it is very bright and has been mistaken for a UFO on numerous occasions i actually saw it myself last night and have seen it many times

but the thing i find interesting about the video that could blow the ISS theory out of the water is the introduction of the second light at 26secs but that could be a satellite reflecting in the sun going in the opposite direction
interesting footage all the same

You know what. It could actually be it. I am reading the pass time of the ISS in Vancouver, the time is the same as the time i filmed that thing. It matches the direction as well. According to the website, it will cross today as well.Well there we go. Its not a ufo. :)
So if the big one is the ISS whats the smaller one? Satellites are small, i think they wouldn't be visible with my camera.

 

[Ducado]

That there is is something happening is beyond doubt, however this phenomena has been happening since time immemorial, it changes it's guise to suit the belief systems of the day. Faeries and Elves, demons, angels.

The answer is not in nuts and bolts flying machines, but is far more complex, and could have something to do with a kind of control system that educates, never giving a straight forward answer constantly alluding investigation and proof, throwing false clues around like bits of aluminium and common minerals.

In fact if any of you know the work of the one worlds greatest clinical psychiatrists Milton Eriksson who used forms of hypnosis, one of his technique was to throw his subject in to confusion, which tended to open the mind up to greater learning and healing, a story he tells is of bumping into a guy in the street, instead of apologising to him, he told him it was ten to two! (it was much later) thus confusing the guy making him more susceptible to suggestion.

If you want to get deeper into this subject, you are advised to keep away from the so called UFO buffs and study the works of John Keel, Jacques Vallee

A good question and answer site with the man himself

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc839.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc839.htm</a>

 

[1.618034]

That there is is something happening is beyond doubt, however this phenomena has been happening since time immemorial, it changes it's guise to suit the belief systems of the day. Faeries and Elves, demons, angels.

The answer is not in nuts and bolts flying machines, but is far more complex, and could have something to do with a kind of control system that educates, never giving a straight forward answer constantly alluding investigation and proof, throwing false clues around like bits of aluminium and common minerals.

In fact if any of you know the work of the one worlds greatest clinical psychiatrists Milton Eriksson who used forms of hypnosis, one of his technique was to throw his subject in to confusion, which tended to open the mind up to greater learning and healing, a story he tells is of bumping into a guy in the street, instead of apologising to him, he told him it was ten to two! (it was much later) thus confusing the guy making him more susceptible to suggestion.

If you want to get deeper into this subject, you are advised to keep away from the so called UFO buffs and study the works of John Keel, Jacques Vallee

A good question and answer site with the man himself

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc839.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc839.htm</a>

Interesting. Thanks Ducado.

I'm not sure there actually is anything to UFO's, and I really have a problem with the Aliens in Spaceships stuff because it just doesn't make sense to me... My instinct is to think that if there is something, (I probably won't be convinced there is, unless I witness something myself or see some better evidence than I have yet) then I think it may be plasma balls or something that might be created by geological/meteorological forces... But I do like Vallee's ideas about higher dimensional "windows" even though again it's easy but probably incorrect(?) to think of these phenomena as being part of an Intelligence... especially in the same way as we think of ourselves as intelligent.

I also agree that if these things are happening now, they they probably have been happening for ever. Funny how "alien UFO" sightings started after the advent of Cinema and Sci-Fi films and books. Therefore this phenomena, if there is one, probably transcends us mere mortals but that doesn't mean we can't understand or prove it one way or another.

One thing I do believe is that I don't think that we are the highest "intelligence" in the Universe(s) so if there are higher beings then some of them would make us look like bacterium multiplying in a Petri dish or perhaps we and our Universe are just 3 dimensional shadows of higher/multi dimensional beings...?


Interesting stuff though and a definite relief from the usual "theories". I'll read a bit more about him...








Is it Wednesday yet...?

 

[Unknown_Genius]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXIWKQOu-k8&feature=related[/youtube]

I find the end bit of this particularly fascinating, when he's describing how he and the alien communicated. It sounds too weird to just be bollocks.

 

[ElanJo]

Has anybody actually witnessed anything UFO wise themselves? As in seen anything which they can't explain?

If so, what have you seen?

I and an ex GF have. We were walking through a park at night and over the valley there was an oval light over a (farm) field with a beam sweeping around turning off (for about 4 seconds) and on (for about 8 seconds). It was there for about 5 mins before it disappeared.

I have no idea what it was so therefore it was an Unidentified Flying Object.

On another night me and the same Ex were walking down my road, again at night, and looked up at a plane flying over (it was quite low) and saw a grey disk-like ball about the size of the cockpit area of the plane just trailing below the tail. Again, no idea what it was. It may have been some kind of military plane with some military type sensor or something connected.

I think that there are almost certainly many alien races in the universe. Whether they have ever been here or not i don't know. I doubt it.

 

[buzzer1]

Has anybody actually witnessed anything UFO wise themselves? As in seen anything which they can't explain?

If so, what have you seen?

I and an ex GF have. We were walking through a park at night and over the valley there was an oval light over a (farm) field with a beam sweeping around turning off (for about 4 seconds) and on (for about 8 seconds). It was there for about 5 mins before it disappeared.

I have no idea what it was so therefore it was an Unidentified Flying Object.

On another night me and the same Ex were walking down my road, again at night, and looked up at a plane flying over (it was quite low) and saw a grey disk-like ball about the size of the cockpit area of the plane just trailing below the tail. Again, no idea what it was. It may have been some kind of military plane with some military type sensor or something connected.

I think that there are almost certainly many alien races in the universe. Whether they have ever been here or not i don't know. I doubt it.

An old bloke from work was coming into work one dark winter morning(about 5 years ago) and he seen two what can only be described as huge beachball sized metallic balls, and again they can only be desctibed as chasing eachother/over under up and down at the side of a hedge in a farmers field on the outskirts of Wigan, and this guy is old school flat earth so would not make it up.
Can i ask, seriously what are these two incidents? if they are a fake then i apologise, if they are not they are probably the best footage i have seen.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Vdr1DKPQ0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Vdr1DKPQ0</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MLvq73TX94&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MLvq73T ... re=related</a>