UK far right trouble

[Mr Kobayashi]

Doesn't matter whether you say it in person or online, defamation/'inaccuracy' is not a crime in this country.

The biggest cause for the three little girls being murdered was the fact it was, prima facie, a horrific terrorist attack despite the authorities trying to cover it up, which inflamed the situation more than the Ali Al Shakati stuff in my opinion.

People assumed it was an Islamic extremist because that's an obvious assumption to make given past terrorist attacks (although it remains to be seen whether it's correct in this instance) so that led to a lot of the anger targeting Muslims/mosques.

The stuff about Ali Al Shakati is a distraction and a nonsense. It was made clear it wasn't him within hours, and the protests and riots would have happened regardless and continued targeting asylum seeker hotels long after it was made clear that the suspect was not an asylum seeker.

You're wrong.

Barnsley man made false paedophile claims causing victims to fear vigilante violence

“There were real fears of vigilante violence because of being erroneously branded child abusers.”

www.thestar.co.uk

 

[KDB Fan]

You're wrong.

Barnsley man made false paedophile claims causing victims to fear vigilante violence

“There were real fears of vigilante violence because of being erroneously branded child abusers.”

www.thestar.co.uk

I'm not.

You're talking about stalking/harassment which is a crime. Posting an article with a false accusation that somebody is wrongly involved in a crime has always been libel.

 

[BobKowalski]

That makes it okay for the police to throw you in a cell then for reposting an article! Others were charged for substantially the same thing.

Southport: Man cleared of racial hatred over social media posts

Mark Heath was accused of stirring up hatred in posts shared at the time of the Southport killings.

www.bbc.com

And cleared. That is how the rule of law works. Police trying to suppress the violence incited by your chums on the far right, arrest people for committing the acts or inciting the acts. The courts then weigh up the evidence and judge accordingly.

You seem unaware that it is an offence to incite violence and civil unrest and that the State tends to be sniffy about this sort of thing. Can I suggest next time something happens you and your far right chums get your facts straight first and save us all a lot of unnecessary bother?

 

[BobKowalski]

Doesn't matter whether you say it in person or online, defamation/'inaccuracy' is not a crime in this country.

The biggest cause for the three little girls being murdered was the fact it was, prima facie, a horrific terrorist attack despite the authorities trying to cover it up, which inflamed the situation more than the Ali Al Shakati stuff in my opinion.

People assumed it was an Islamic extremist because that's an obvious assumption to make given past terrorist attacks (although it remains to be seen whether it's correct in this instance) so that led to a lot of the anger targeting Muslims/mosques.

The stuff about Ali Al Shakati is a distraction and a nonsense. It was made clear it wasn't him within hours, and the protests and riots would have happened regardless and continued targeting asylum seeker hotels long after it was made clear that the suspect was not an asylum seeker.

So, you and your far right chums only spring into action if it’s a Muslim or asylum seeker doing the killing? White, Christian folk get a pass. Good to know.

 

[stonerblue]

And cleared. That is how the rule of law works. Police trying to suppress the violence incited by your chums on the far right, arrest people for committing the acts or inciting the acts. The courts then weigh up the evidence and judge accordingly.

You seem unaware that it is an offence to incite violence and civil unrest and that the State tends to be sniffy about this sort of thing. Can I suggest next time something happens you and your far right chums get your facts straight first and save us all a lot of unnecessary bother?

She told me yesterday, ''How justice works.''

 

[BrianW]

Laughable, people comparing Starmer to Stalin.

It only proves their ignorance, as they obviously have no clue what Stalin did. Let's put it this way, even if you were in Stalin's fucking Cabinet (or equivalent) you could be carried off to a gulag or shot if you took one wrong step. Or even if Stalin thought you had taken a wrong step.

It's offensive, to be honest, to make such a comparison. Like comparing Butlins to Auschwitz would be. It's way, way beyond hyperbole.

 

[kaz7]

Doesn't matter whether you say it in person or online, defamation/'inaccuracy' is not a crime in this country.

The biggest cause for the three little girls being murdered was the fact it was, prima facie, a horrific terrorist attack despite the authorities trying to cover it up, which inflamed the situation more than the Ali Al Shakati stuff in my opinion.

People assumed it was an Islamic extremist because that's an obvious assumption to make given past terrorist attacks (although it remains to be seen whether it's correct in this instance) so that led to a lot of the anger targeting Muslims/mosques.

The stuff about Ali Al Shakati is a distraction and a nonsense. It was made clear it wasn't him within hours, and the protests and riots would have happened regardless and continued targeting asylum seeker hotels long after it was made clear that the suspect was not an asylum seeker.

Why do you think people set fire to the hotel and all the rest of disorder ? They read on twitter that the suspect was a asylum seeker and it was a terror attack which it wasnt , you are saying that people can have free speech with no consequences

 

[BrianW]

We do not have collective punishment in this country.

Even if those poor girls were killed by a Muslim/Immigrant/Asylum Seeker it does not justify lawless thugs attacking innocent Muslims/Immigrants/Asylum seekers.

Imagine a City fan was suspected to be a paedophile murderer. Would that justify violent attacks on all City fans? Would it fuck. No one would even suggest that was a reasonable reaction.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

We do not have collective punishment in this country.

Even if those poor girls were killed by a Muslim/Immigrant/Asylum Seeker it does not justify lawless thugs attacking innocent Muslims/Immigrants/Asylum seekers.

Imagine a City fan was suspected to be a paedophile murderer. Would that justify violent attacks on all City fans? Would it fuck. No one would even suggest that was a reasonable reaction.

Well yeah, but collective responsibility is the bread and butter of racism. Without the assumption of collective guilt, failure, or inferiority, there would be nothing to be racist about.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Well yeah, but collective responsibility is the bread and butter of racism. Without the assumption of collective guilt, failure, or inferiority, there would be nothing to be racist about.

Deep. I’m glad that you’re just ‘with’ stupid ;-)