UK far right trouble

[bluethrunthru]

So you think there will be a prosecution but you want it to be quicker?
And because it's taking ages it means we have two tier policing?

sometimes justice needs investigation which takes time. R/W bots and morons like him just seek to make trouble - just block him and he has no oxygen and dies.

Man, 92, to go on trial for historic Bristol rape and murder case

Louisa Dunne, 75, was found strangled on her living room floor by a neighbour in 1967.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Starmer is a victim of the response by the police, CPS, and judiciary to the riots. They did far more to prove two-tier policing than anything any right-wing protester could ever say, and he's paying the price for it with his political capital.

I haven't mentioned anything about any airport incident but I'm assuming that's the one where the coppers were assaulted and no charges were brought? I wouldn't hold your breath for charges to be brought and regardless of that case, I think people have seen enough to make their mind up about whether the justice system treats everyone equally.

You’re off your rocker and must be down some real shit-hole to believe that. Labour, and Starmer are unpopular because they haven’t done popular policies, as in, they are trying to sort the issues of the country.

He’s a boring **** anyway, having boring, unpopular policies will always hurt. Is that what really matters though? Shouldn’t it be the value of life and how we live, ensuring the NHS …

You know what, I got sucked in again.

*reminder to oneself, ‘Don’t do it’*

 

[meltonblue]

Yep I read the article which shows very clearly, with figures to boot, that judges are going rogue against the wishes of Parliament and two different Acts Of Parliament that were drafted to crackdown on knife crime more harshly.

They have a lot of discretion and use that discretion to pass sentences that sometimes support or offend our sense of justice but the idea the justice system is 'entirely based on the rules and sentencing guidelines' is not the reality in my opinion.

I would argue almost none of the rioters' cases fit the sentencing criteria as if it's a simple, mathematical process.

So you're just ignoring the response of the magistrates as part of that then? It is absolutely entirely based on the rules and sentencing guidelines, I think you’re trying to argue you don’t agree with the guidelines?

On your second point, I just googled people jailed for online racial hatred for the riots and this one came up -

Northampton man jailed after inciting racial hatred online - BBC News

Kay admits “in hindsight” some of his posts “made [him] look like an idiot”.

www.bbc.co.uk

So here’s the sentencing guidelines for that -

Racial hatred offences/ Hatred against persons on religious grounds or grounds of sexual orientation – Sentencing

www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk

And here’s the judge’s sentencing remarks -

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/R-v-Tyler-Kay-Sentencing-remarks.pdf

Do you really think that didn’t fit the sentencing criteria? On what basis if so? Or was I just lucky enough to just find the one that was the “almost none” that fitted it?

 

[meltonblue]

Another one that wasn’t involved directly in the riots but got sentenced due to stirring up racial hatred, this one got a lot of public attention at the time as it was the wife of a conservative councillor -

Politician's wife Lucy Connolly jailed for race hate post - BBC News

Lucy Connolly, wife of West Northamptonshire councillor Raymond Connolly, is jailed for 31 months.

www.bbc.co.uk

Here’s the sentencing remarks for that one -

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf

Again, what doesn’t fit the sentencing guidelines?