UKIP=BNP=EDL=ALL ONE IN THE SAME

Skashion said:
They don't know though. I have every belief that these right-wingers think the criticism of UKIP by the left is driven by fear, but nothing is further from the truth. Splitting the right-wing vote opens the door to the left, as much as the splitting of the left vote in the 80s opened the door to Thatcher. If we criticise UKIP it can only be genuine objection to their racist links.

Im quite comfortable with UKIP doing well, it splits the right wing vote and could keep them out of power for a generation.

The nutjobs who believe Europe and Immigration are the biggest issues have a party where they can spout there rather mildish racist stuff and all congratulate themselves on how right they are because a Pole works in a shop somewhere in town and theres millions unemployed because Labour let them all in and gave them mansions and millions in benefits and that guy in Europe spends all our money giving it to French farmers.
 
Ducado said:
You have a point and that's why the mail is on board, what will happen though if their share of the vote goes very high, the Tory party will start moving towards UKIP policies, he has already hinted on a referendum on Europe, he should just offer it, because whatever your opinions on the EU people should be allowed to vote on it
The higher, the better, as far as the self-interested left would be concerned. In the 1983 election Labour and the Social Democrats had an equal share of the vote. Result: Labour decimated. Social Democrats won barely any seats. Tory landslide.

The tories have promised one in the next Parliament if they win the next election... Which they won't, so they'll never have to do it. Big business does not want out of the EU, so it won't happen.
 
Rascal said:
Skashion said:
They don't know though. I have every belief that these right-wingers think the criticism of UKIP by the left is driven by fear, but nothing is further from the truth. Splitting the right-wing vote opens the door to the left, as much as the splitting of the left vote in the 80s opened the door to Thatcher. If we criticise UKIP it can only be genuine objection to their racist links.

Im quite comfortable with UKIP doing well, it splits the right wing vote and could keep them out of power for a generation.

The nutjobs who believe Europe and Immigration are the biggest issues have a party where they can spout there rather mildish racist stuff and all congratulate themselves on how right they are because a Pole works in a shop somewhere in town and theres millions unemployed because Labour let them all in and gave them mansions and millions in benefits and that guy in Europe spends all our money giving it to French farmers.

I am not sure it will translate to a general election lots of small parties do well in local elections and the incumbent government normally gets a good kicking, I am yet to see any of their polices that are racist mildly or otherwise

By the way even Labour admits they got it wrong with the Eastern European immigration, immigration that affected many ordinary working men, because it lowered wages but I suspect your not really that bothered about the ordinary working man like the two decorators I know that are now unemployed because a couple of Polish guys set up, and undercut every local decorator, of course they have no insurance or pay no tax just a van and few pots of paint, but I guess it does not matter
 
Ducado said:
By the way even Labour admits they got it wrong with the Eastern European immigration, immigration that affected many ordinary working men, because it lowered wages but I suspect your not really that bothered about the ordinary working man like the two decorators I know that are now unemployed because a couple of Polish guys set up, and undercut every local decorator, of course they have no insurance or pay no tax just a van and few pots of paint, but I guess it does not matter

If the Poles are working illegally without insurance and paying no tax why havent your two unemployed friends reported them?

As for your absolute ludicrous remarks that as a Socialist im not bothered about the working man, i just despair. Your right wing nutjobs really do border on the fucking clueless at times. fucking clueless.
 
Rascal said:
Ducado said:
By the way even Labour admits they got it wrong with the Eastern European immigration, immigration that affected many ordinary working men, because it lowered wages but I suspect your not really that bothered about the ordinary working man like the two decorators I know that are now unemployed because a couple of Polish guys set up, and undercut every local decorator, of course they have no insurance or pay no tax just a van and few pots of paint, but I guess it does not matter

If the Poles are working illegally without insurance and paying no tax why havent your two unemployed friends reported them?

As for your absolute ludicrous remarks that as a Socialist im not bothered about the working man, i just despair. Your right wing nutjobs really do border on the fucking clueless at times. fucking clueless.

Calling people that disagree with your political views as nutjobs is getting rather tedious and boring ...

Do you think Britain can cope with the level of immigration coming to this country.
These statistics are the latest from BBC

In Romania there are around 15.3million people of working age, meaning that the 1 per cent considering moving to the UK equates to around 153,000 people.
In Bulgaria there are around 4.67million people of working age, meaning that according to the BBC statistics, more than 196,000 could be considering moving to the UK to find a job.

Are you honestly happy for this country to allow this to go on ? When our young can not get on the housing ladder, NHS is under strain and benefits are being cut .
 
Mike D said:
TCIB said:
The fucking idiots.

They would have got my vote if they didn't have this racist element, fucking losers.


I'm glad to see even a nutjob like your fine good self can see the wood from the trees. If the far right had any incline of getting into power in this country then that would be me off in flash I could not stick around in a country being run by biggots.
CONservative = biggots
 
Markt85 said:
Rascal said:
Ducado said:
By the way even Labour admits they got it wrong with the Eastern European immigration, immigration that affected many ordinary working men, because it lowered wages but I suspect your not really that bothered about the ordinary working man like the two decorators I know that are now unemployed because a couple of Polish guys set up, and undercut every local decorator, of course they have no insurance or pay no tax just a van and few pots of paint, but I guess it does not matter

If the Poles are working illegally without insurance and paying no tax why havent your two unemployed friends reported them?

As for your absolute ludicrous remarks that as a Socialist im not bothered about the working man, i just despair. Your right wing nutjobs really do border on the fucking clueless at times. fucking clueless.

Calling people that disagree with your political views as nutjobs is getting rather tedious and boring ...

Do you think Britain can cope with the level of immigration coming to this country.
These statistics are the latest from BBC

In Romania there are around 15.3million people of working age, meaning that the 1 per cent considering moving to the UK equates to around 153,000 people.
In Bulgaria there are around 4.67million people of working age, meaning that according to the BBC statistics, more than 196,000 could be considering moving to the UK to find a job.

Are you honestly happy for this country to allow this to go on ? When our young can not get on the housing ladder, NHS is under strain and benefits are being cut .

Racism isn't an answer to immigration.
 
Ducado said:
Rascal said:
Skashion said:
They don't know though. I have every belief that these right-wingers think the criticism of UKIP by the left is driven by fear, but nothing is further from the truth. Splitting the right-wing vote opens the door to the left, as much as the splitting of the left vote in the 80s opened the door to Thatcher. If we criticise UKIP it can only be genuine objection to their racist links.

Im quite comfortable with UKIP doing well, it splits the right wing vote and could keep them out of power for a generation.

The nutjobs who believe Europe and Immigration are the biggest issues have a party where they can spout there rather mildish racist stuff and all congratulate themselves on how right they are because a Pole works in a shop somewhere in town and theres millions unemployed because Labour let them all in and gave them mansions and millions in benefits and that guy in Europe spends all our money giving it to French farmers.

I am not sure it will translate to a general election lots of small parties do well in local elections and the incumbent government normally gets a good kicking, I am yet to see any of their polices that are racist mildly or otherwise

By the way even Labour admits they got it wrong with the Eastern European immigration, immigration that affected many ordinary working men, because it lowered wages but I suspect your not really that bothered about the ordinary working man like the two decorators I know that are now unemployed because a couple of Polish guys set up, and undercut every local decorator, of course they have no insurance or pay no tax just a van and few pots of paint, but I guess it does not matter

The sad thing is that there are enough people out there who are more than happy to moan about poles pinching all our jobs but at the same time are willing to employ the dodgey decorators to do a job on there house on the cheap. When the eastern european's first came over here let me tell you businesses big and small were loving them and many still are they are a breath of fresh air hard working, diligent and honest what more could you ask for on minimum wage.

Blaming Labour on this is a very lazy politics because let me tell you the tories would have done exactly the same under the circumstance. Don't be fooled by them hindsight is a marvelous thing but I did not here anybody complaining at the time apart from the UKIP/BNP right wing racists nutjobs making any noises when the economy was booming. Its very easy now to pick out the scapegoats but what you gotta remember is that out of 1/2 million poles in the country 6,390 are claiming JSA 4,390 are ESA or on incapacity benefits. You would have to admit that they do have a positive effect on our economy?
 
UKIP will always get people with extreme views attaching themselves to them, they are extreme in themselves and really are a joke, they will never win a seat and if they had the bollocks should just come clean and become overtly racist, end of.
 
Markt85 said:
Calling people that disagree with your political views as nutjobs is getting rather tedious and boring ...

Do you think Britain can cope with the level of immigration coming to this country.
These statistics are the latest from BBC

In Romania there are around 15.3million people of working age, meaning that the 1 per cent considering moving to the UK equates to around 153,000 people.
In Bulgaria there are around 4.67million people of working age, meaning that according to the BBC statistics, more than 196,000 could be considering moving to the UK to find a job.

Are you honestly happy for this country to allow this to go on ? When our young can not get on the housing ladder, NHS is under strain and benefits are being cut .

But you are nutjobs, thats a fact tedious or not.

Why arnt the Romanians worried about the 2.7 million unemployed UK citizens who may take there jobs?

If you want the benefits of the free markets you have to give the benefits to others. What i dont get from the laissez faire right is why they against the freedoms they espouse to support.
 

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