UKIP

[hgblue]

That's the one. Many members have switched from one to the other. I've read before an analysis of the amount of seats in which both parties do not simultaneously run candidates cannot just be a coincidence, such is the strength of the statistical anomaly. It is suggestive of an electoral pact. The two parties do not compete very often and appear to get out of one another's way as far as possible.

Top it all off with a nice picture of Mark Deavin and Tony Lecomber (who has a string of very serious criminal offences) with Nigel Farage:

I understand why people think UKIP seem reasonable and I understand why Euroscepticism is popular, but dig a little deeper, and you see some disturbing warning signs.

Indeed, well that's pissed on my chips.

Ok back to hating them all until ukip get rid of the racists and undesirables.

Shame that because the bullet points of their policies looked reasonable.

I don't buy it.

People will accept crimes that are sanctioned by the state (phone hacking, character assassination) by the media. But for a similar situation such as this, it's perfectly acceptable to have a moral outrage ala party predujice.

So meeting a racist makes you a racist? I'm not buying it either.

 

[tidyman]

we are an island. we can only physically allow so many people to live here. Theres nothing wrong with putting a limit on it. As quantity grows, quality goes.

All these left wing up their own arses type do my head in. just because a party isn't acting in a pc (left wing invented shite). This countries too fucking soft on immigrants. All the other countries have got it ok, they just fuck em off to us because they know it's full of do gooders who care more about others problems than their own.

Some people must honestly believe we are a self sufficient country which does not import any products. in 1812, the population of this country was 20m. Only 200 hundred years later, it's more than tripled to 62m. Yes, migration has played a strong part of this but in another 200 hundred years time. In 6 or so generations, do you really believe this island can contain and be of any quality of life to the estimated 125m citizens? we cant even sort out poverty in the poorest areas. Immigration IS a problem to the quality of our childrens futures and their childrens' childrens futures and just because you wont be alive doesnt mean it wont happen.

now i aint no BNP xenophobe and love the idea of multicultaralism. There has to be a point in time though when our borders say 'right, enough is enough' we're a sinking ship already being made worse by clueless city workers who gambled and still are gambling our countries reservations in the billions every minute.

I will vote for a party who aren't racist but instead, provide common sense in their manifesto's rather than some ideological bullshit aimed towards the demographic. Too long this countries succumbed to the lies of the wealthiest old boy parties who promise the same as the party before did except 10x's better. the only people allowed into this country should be the ones who will benefit most to the sustainability of the island for the progressive course of time not just for now but for the future.

If you want to call me racist then piss off, i wont be made to feel bad for stating my belief which i believe is backed by common sense, the only reason why people wont like my comments is because ''oooh, you cant prove it'' and that's right, i cant, but i can make a pretty damn well educated guess as to the inevitable dystopia which most people are blinded to and god forbid those with sense speak out in hope of avoiding this situation

Rubbish.
You think the UK is the only place that has immigrants?
You think people just walk into the country and are given a house and car and sky tv?
You think immigration isn#t controlled vigorously now?
You think immigrants don't contribute to society?

Even if all the above questions were answered ... he's main point is the population growth .. how long can it continue ?

There's plenty of room yet. We just need to spread out a bit. Catch a train from Manchester to London and 90% of the journey, you can see nothing out of the window but fields.

The party who promises to, build more houses in the fields, will be getting my vote.

Probably not the Greens, I'm guessing.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Rubbish.
You think the UK is the only place that has immigrants?
You think people just walk into the country and are given a house and car and sky tv?
You think immigration isn#t controlled vigorously now?
You think immigrants don't contribute to society?

Even if all the above questions were answered ... he's main point is the population growth .. how long can it continue ?

There's plenty of room yet. We just need to spread out a bit. Catch a train from Manchester to London and 90% of the journey, you can see nothing out of the window but fields.

The party who promises to, build more houses in the fields, will be getting my vote.

Probably not the Greens, I'm guessing.

Those fields make the food that makes sure the population doesn't die from starvation

 

[Aphex]

Indeed, well that's pissed on my chips.

Ok back to hating them all until ukip get rid of the racists and undesirables.

Shame that because the bullet points of their policies looked reasonable.

I don't buy it.

People will accept crimes that are sanctioned by the state (phone hacking, character assassination) by the media. But for a similar situation such as this, it's perfectly acceptable to have a moral outrage ala party predujice.

So meeting a racist makes you a racist? I'm not buying it either.

So there are no racists in the Tory party then?

 

[tidyman]

Even if all the above questions were answered ... he's main point is the population growth .. how long can it continue ?

There's plenty of room yet. We just need to spread out a bit. Catch a train from Manchester to London and 90% of the journey, you can see nothing out of the window but fields.

The party who promises to, build more houses in the fields, will be getting my vote.

Probably not the Greens, I'm guessing.

Those fields make the food that makes sure the population doesn't die from starvation

I never claimed it was a foolproof plan.

Couldn't they build shops as well as houses to get round that problem though?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

There's plenty of room yet. We just need to spread out a bit. Catch a train from Manchester to London and 90% of the journey, you can see nothing out of the window but fields.

The party who promises to, build more houses in the fields, will be getting my vote.

Probably not the Greens, I'm guessing.

Those fields make the food that makes sure the population doesn't die from starvation

I never claimed it was a foolproof plan.

Couldn't they build shops as well as houses to get round that problem though?

Hmmmmm

 

[hgblue]

I don't buy it.

People will accept crimes that are sanctioned by the state (phone hacking, character assassination) by the media. But for a similar situation such as this, it's perfectly acceptable to have a moral outrage ala party predujice.

So meeting a racist makes you a racist? I'm not buying it either.

So there are no racists in the Tory party then?

There are racists in all parties imo. I heard the other day that for the first time since we joined the EU, the majority of British people want to be out of it. Faced with the fact that animosity towards the gravy train that the EU has become is at an all time high, it's easier to smear your political rival than debate the issue.

 

[Aphex]

So meeting a racist makes you a racist? I'm not buying it either.

So there are no racists in the Tory party then?

There are racists in all parties imo. I heard the other day that for the first time since we joined the EU, the majority of British people want to be out of it. Faced with the fact that animosity towards the gravy train that the EU has become is at an all time high, it's easier to smear your political rival than debate the issue.

I agree. And my argument is not the fact he chose to meet a certain person, more to do with the fact it becomes abhorrent. The freelance criminal is out of his depth when it comes to state sanction loons.

 

[MCFCTrick]

I don't buy it.

People will accept crimes that are sanctioned by the state (phone hacking, character assassination) by the media. But for a similar situation such as this, it's perfectly acceptable to have a moral outrage ala party predujice.

So meeting a racist makes you a racist? I'm not buying it either.

So there are no racists in the Tory party then?

Exactly.....all Labour/Tory/Lib Dems are squeaky clean morally upstanding citizens, with zero blemishes or skeletons kicking fuck out of the deeply hidden closets aren't they...?

As for the comment on population that we merely need to 'spread out'.....laughable.
The simple fact is that this island is full. And the country's economy (and certainly the NHS) just cannot support such growth....just of those here already (and reproducing large families in each generation) and thats without allowing further immigration.
Too control it and make it far stricter is simple common sense and basic economical logic.
As M.E.D. says.....it happens in the States, you need to put in before you take out. Works in Australia too....

 

[Aphex]

So meeting a racist makes you a racist? I'm not buying it either.

So there are no racists in the Tory party then?

Exactly.....all Labour/Tory/Lib Dems are squeaky clean morally upstanding citizens, with zero blemishes or skeletons kicking fuck out of the deeply hidden closets aren't they...?

As for the comment on population that we merely need to 'spread out'.....laughable.
The simple fact is that this island is full. And the country's economy (and certainly the NHS) just cannot support such growth....just of those here already (and reproducing large families in each generation) and thats without allowing further immigration.
Too control it and make it far stricter is simple common sense and basic economical logic.
As M.E.D. says.....it happens in the States, you need to put in before you take out. Works in Australia too....

Even tho my argument isn't about immigration, (it's about hypocrisy) again, you have a good point

It's safe to say if you argue your point you are branded a racist, completely absurd thought process. It's more to do with common sense - of course.