UKIP

Rocket-footed kolarov said:
I don't think it is now, no. During the period in question racism was more prevalant, at that time RKS had views about imposing socialist ideas, does he still hold these views? Did the racism come later? I would vote Labour by default anyway. Much of UKIP fail to realise what the leadership stand for (Paleoconservatism), as a post above alludes to it is not uncommon to find UKIPers with views verging on national socialism.

So UKIP is not only racist now its the new Nazi party ?
 
TGR said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Kun Aguero said:
Just seen Farage supports fox hunting. Posh toff.

That's what I like about Farage = he's so multi-faceted that it's virtually impossible to run out of reasons to hate him.
He has the amazing ability to reinvent himself as a completely different **** each time.

Which is why he is such a good politician. He's gonna scare the shit out of the Tories come the euro elections.

He isn't a good politician at all - he is a media-savvy polemicist trying to rein in the bunch of basket cases who comprise the rank and file of his party and make it look like they are user-friendly and electable, which they clearly aren't.
He must shit bricks every time one of his prospective parliamentary candidates has a gin and tonic too many, starts a rant about darkies, and a reporter happens to be on hand with a microphone and camera.
The best advice he could give the utter loons who stand as UKIP candidates would be to lay off the sauce and shut the fuck up until the polling booths have closed, because they only seem to open their mouths to change feet.
You are right in that UKIP are the Tories worst nightmare, as they are appealing with considerable success to the blue rinse brigade in the shires, and in closely fought constituencies they will drive a coach and horses through the right wing vote, and let Labour in via the back door.
In that respect, UKIP are Miliband's wet dream come true, and almost makes me consider the possibility that Farage is a closet socialist, rather than national socialist, as he is doing his level best to ensure a Labour majority.
 
Challenger1978 said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
I don't think it is now, no. During the period in question racism was more prevalant, at that time RKS had views about imposing socialist ideas, does he still hold these views? Did the racism come later? I would vote Labour by default anyway. Much of UKIP fail to realise what the leadership stand for (Paleoconservatism), as a post above alludes to it is not uncommon to find UKIPers with views verging on national socialism.

So UKIP is not only racist now its the new Nazi party ?

I said members have views verging on national socialism, not the leadership. What other comparison can be made to right whingers who hate foreigners but want nationalised industry and social policy. It was to highlight the disconnect between the loons and farage. My reference was to the euphamism, why? Because those views aspire to some elements of what NS falsly purported to support, not what it actually did. I am aware the comparison is inappropriate outside of that context.
 
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
I said members have views verging on national socialism, not the leadership. What other comparison can be made to right whingers who hate foreigners but want nationalised industry and social policy. It was to highlight the disconnect between the loons and farage. My reference was to the euphamism, why? Because those views aspire to some elements of what NS falsly purported to support, not what it actually did. I am aware the comparison is inappropriate outside of that context.
If that's true it just proves what racist fools they are. UKIP is not national socialist in any way. I don't see them as libertarian either as they are too socially conservative. A real libertarian party could not oppose immigration either, but they are, approaching, not quite hitting, but approaching the opposite of national socialism.
 
They're absolutely getting my vote and millions of others' at the next European and general elections. I'm not in the slightest bit worried about their view on "race" but then I've taken the time to read their constitution, look into the sort of people who stand for them and compare what they have to say with what the corrupt dinosaur parties propose.

I will remain as stubbornly non-racist as I have always been safe in the knowledge that I have made the one and only choice available to me in our flawed version of democracy that might lead to a vote on our status in the EU.

Good luck to rest of as you all sit meekly at David Cameron's heel, staring up at his face with your big, baleful obedient eyes. Don't forget to keep on trotting out his thoughts on anyone who might actually break the corrupt establishment monopoly will you? Best just to repeat what he says about UKIP, rather than actually investigate it yourself. Good little doggies!
 
Chancy Termites said:
look into the sort of people who stand for them

You mean people like Godfrey Bloom, and that fuckwit with a conviction for racially aggravated assault?
Or Dr Julia Gasper, a senior UKIP official, who stated that being gay was the same as paedophilia or bestiality?
If nutjobs like this get your approval, then knock yourself out and vote for them.
But don't be surprised when folk like me point out that your party of choice is full of utter fucking idiots.
Oh, and the Labour party thanks you for voting UKIP.
I'm sure a clever person like you can work out why.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Chancy Termites said:
look into the sort of people who stand for them

You mean people like Godfrey Bloom, and that fuckwit with a conviction for racially aggravated assault?
Or Dr Julia Gasper, a senior UKIP official, who stated that being gay was the same as paedophilia or bestiality?
If nutjobs like this get your approval, then knock yourself out and vote for them.
But don't be surprised when folk like me point out that your party of choice is full of utter fucking idiots.
Oh, and the Labour party thanks you for voting UKIP.
I'm sure a clever person like you can work out why.

To be fair to UKIP (It won't happen again) every party has it's nutjobs, thieves and miscreants.
 
Chancy Termites said:
They're absolutely getting my vote and millions of others' at the next European and general elections. I'm not in the slightest bit worried about their view on "race" but then I've taken the time to read their constitution, look into the sort of people who stand for them and compare what they have to say with what the corrupt dinosaur parties propose.

I will remain as stubbornly non-racist as I have always been safe in the knowledge that I have made the one and only choice available to me in our flawed version of democracy that might lead to a vote on our status in the EU.

Good luck to rest of as you all sit meekly at David Cameron's heel, staring up at his face with your big, baleful obedient eyes. Don't forget to keep on trotting out his thoughts on anyone who might actually break the corrupt establishment monopoly will you? Best just to repeat what he says about UKIP, rather than actually investigate it yourself. Good little doggies!

I had a similar interest in the Green party a while ago. If you strip out all that environmental nonsense, their manifesto was actually quite impressive
 
Chancy Termites said:
They're absolutely getting my vote and millions of others' at the next European and general elections. I'm not in the slightest bit worried about their view on "race" but then I've taken the time to read their constitution, look into the sort of people who stand for them and compare what they have to say with what the corrupt dinosaur parties propose.

I will remain as stubbornly non-racist as I have always been safe in the knowledge that I have made the one and only choice available to me in our flawed version of democracy that might lead to a vote on our status in the EU.

Good luck to rest of as you all sit meekly at David Cameron's heel, staring up at his face with your big, baleful obedient eyes. Don't forget to keep on trotting out his thoughts on anyone who might actually break the corrupt establishment monopoly will you? Best just to repeat what he says about UKIP, rather than actually investigate it yourself. Good little doggies!

If you look into all political parties very closely, you will find they are over populated by the sort of people you'd like to take a baseball bat to.

The Greens have a different kind of irritating smug twat to your xenophobic blue rinsed Tory/Ukipper.

Good luck with your wasted protest vote.
 
Farage has seriously misread his basic support with his plea to grant asylum to refugees.
A racist is a racist and makes no exceptions.
 

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