UKIP

[Rascal]

Rascal, The one area I was very disappointed in was the minimum wage, I spoke with one MEP from the Midlands about it and I am confident it will get attention very soon, I will keep pushing for it at every meeting I attend.

I want to match Miliband's £8 level immediately as I can see no reason for not doing so, it will cost the country nothing as the extra cost born by the public sector is paid back by savings in working benefits, which in it's self is a disgrace, working people needing benefits to live. Businesses claim it will cost jobs but they said that when it was first introduced. To not pay it at an £8 level rewards employers who pay little and as a result are subsidised by the state whilst at the same time penalises decent employers who pay a fair wage. We must get the benefits bill under control so there is no excuse for subsidising employers by supporting their low wages with tax credits and housing benefit .

I also want a higher minimum wage for larger companies who can afford to pay more.

Another issue that made me angry this week is the benefits freeze to save £3 billion over two years, Cameron must think we are all thick, He is happy to freeze his own people benefits, 70%+ who are in work , but guarantee an increase in the foreign aid budget, hand over £5 billion a year to European immigrants in tax credits, educate a million children of immigrants for fee at a cost of £6-9 billion a year and provide free heath care to 8 million immigrants at a cost of £17.6 billion a year. I thought the first responsibility of government was to protect its people not persecute those on benefits because of low wages whilst handing out cash and/or free services to those born or even living over seas.

And don't get me started on the persecution of the under 21's, they are least responsible for the mess and yet they are targeted. I wish they would all vote, for anyone, but they must vote to stop the endless tory persecution.

For a UKIP supporter you appear to have some real left wing leanings. I know i know, very simplistic that and not a proper way to judge.

I totall agree with your stance on the minimum wage. Its corporate welfare in that it rewards employers with higher profits at the states expense.

Ideally a living wage would follow which would cut the welfare bill enormously and also as IDS is so fucking fond of saying encourage people into work. What pride does taking a job that still requires a person to claim welfare or visit a food bank instill in any person. But IDS is a fucking fruitcake so it doesnt suprise he doesnt get it.

I have no problem with a foreign aid budget, i just think it could be used better. Imagine if it was argetted at say the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. It would make a huge difference.

Any benefit freeze plays well at a Tory party conference. Its what they wank over most hammering the poor.


As for healthcare we will differ here enormously. I would love to see an EU wide version of the NHS as the Economies of scale that would offer could be so advantageous in terms of R&D it would be amazing. But then Im a Europhobe of sorts at the moment.

I would introduce voting for 16 years old and over straight away. They lit up the Scottish referendum debate and you are right they have been shamefully ignored. The Tory scrapping of EMA was shameful as they knew who would suffer most. Inverted class war almost.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Anyone see the hatchet job on Monday by the BBC? it brilliantly showed Farage as the racist dictator that he is.

 

[Blue Til Death]

Most on here wouldn't know racism if it smashed them in the gob, curbs on immigration etc etc is not racist, UKIP are not a racist party, I don't support them but it beggars belief the shit some of you peddle on here when it comes to so called racism.

It would be a damn sight easier combating racism if people stopped being outraged on the behalf of others when someone with a different opinion talks about parties such as UKIP or mentions immigration or any other related issues.

There are to many Ism's in the English language, and most are used by inarticulate, unintelligent or attention seeking fuckwits

That's a truism...!

 

[stonerblue]

It won't be to long before the LWNJ's on here are calling you a Daily Mail reading 'little Englander', xenophobic, racist and a bigot - they do like to shout people down who don't agree with their ideology.
What you have written would be regarded as common sense to the majority of most average, working class people. Hence the rising and increasing popularity of UKIP and they are not going away anytime soon.
However, I fear Ed Milliband and Ed 'I Crashed The Car' Balls' will be making the decisions after the next election due to the defection of rank & file Tory voters who turn to UKIP. Also the current Tory party are completely useless regarding how they promote and communicate their message. Dave & George are only slightly better than Ed & Ed. It is a sad reflection of the sorry state of politics in the UK today.

Love the hypocrisy of LWNJs. They bang on about lack of democracy and more rights, yet they attack people with different views in an insulting manner and act in a malicious way.

Funny how that has not happened. Instead i have tried engaging in debate but recieved only one answer

Dont let a sweeping generalisation go to waste though

TGR's favourite insult. She/He must lob it out at least once every visit to the cellar.

 

[cibaman]

That post by Adrian - is that genuinely what they're proposing? Nice list, but probably unworkable. They'll win votes with it though.

They will also win votes from passive Labour voters too; by targeting the immigration issue. Sad but true. And that is why I can't trust them.

I was chatting to an inner city Leeds based Labour Councillor this morning. My colleague made a joking reference to UKIP and he looked totally crestfallen. Muttered something about "you should see our canvassing returns....."

 

[Mike D]

Here's one for the Kippers out there here's what Nige wants us all to buy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xLbcIianBg

http://i100.independent.co.uk/artic...-ukip-calypso-so-you-dont-have-to--eJw9p6GDLe

Its so funny just like when dead funny man Jim Davidson used to do his West Indian impression.

 

[blueish swede]

Nigel Farage is Phil Jones' dad









told you

 

[Aphex]

I'm sprawling on the pin here about my vote. A UKIP politician just said on question time they agree with minimum pricing on alcohol.

 

[CatMan]

Russell Brand on Newsnight was awesome.

 

[smudgedj]

Russell Brand on Newsnight was awesome.

'the scintillating wisdom of a philosopher-king'

 

[Blue Maverick]

I see UKIP been the party to deal with for a coalition next year I just think the protest vote will only get bigger I'm not saying it's right, Lib Dems at dead in the water and I just think people who don't look at what UKIP really stand for will vote for them.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Looking forward to hearing what this latest UKIP member said.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-expels-councillor-rozanne-duncan-for-jawdropping-comments-made-in-tv-interview-9938852.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 38852.html</a>

 

[BigOscar]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Brother Godfrey who was the founding member got kicked out for saying woman who don't clean behind their cookers are sluts.

 

[cibaman]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Brother Godfrey who was the founding member got kicked out for saying woman who don't clean behind their cookers are sluts.

He would be mortified to be described as "brother". I knew him briefly in the 70's. He's much more sensible nowadays than he was then.

 

[BigOscar]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Brother Godfrey who was the founding member got kicked out for saying woman who don't clean behind their cookers are sluts.

If only I'd know that when I was single!

 

[MaineRoadmcfc]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Where have they defended racism and homophobia?

As I understand it there the only party which bans ex members of the BNP, EDL, Britian First etc

 

[BlueHammer85]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Where have they defended racism and homophobia?

As I understand it there the only party which bans ex members of the BNP, EDL, Britian First etc

Probably because there the only party that attract them

 

[BigOscar]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Where have they defended racism and homophobia?

As I understand it there the only party which bans ex members of the BNP, EDL, Britian First etc

Farage defended calling chinese people "chinks" a few weeks back and they haven't booted the members who've been caught being racist and homephobic, they've resigned instead. For them to actually kick her out, rather than her resigning under the media pressure, suggests she's said something impressively offensive.

 

[MaineRoadmcfc]

What on earth do you have to say to get booted out of UKIP? They've already defended racism and homophobia, I'm going to put my 50p on anti-semitism, that one always seems to get action.

Where have they defended racism and homophobia?

As I understand it there the only party which bans ex members of the BNP, EDL, Britian First etc

Probably because there the only party that attract them

Labour has councillors who are ex BNP...