UK's first active male professional footballer to come out publicly as gay

ChicagoBlue said:
Gay, straight, bi? Who cares?!

BUT, does he track back?!

And, fwiw, why is it males have a problem with their sexual identity, yet most professional female athletes who are lesbians have no trouble, or stigma at all?!

Men need to have a good look at themselves and their ridiculous insecurities.
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Correct, and I had a good look at myself. Does my hair look a bit thin on top? :(
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Gay, straight, bi? Who cares?!

BUT, does he track back?!

And, fwiw, why is it males have a problem with their sexual identity, yet most professional female athletes who are lesbians have no trouble, or stigma at all?!

Men need to have a good look at themselves and their ridiculous insecurities.
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Because being sporty, particular in team sports, is part of the stereotype of being gay for women. Basically a female footballer coming out as gay is like a man in the fashion industry doing likewise. I had a lesbian friend who played football and she said they had this new girl join who was about 15 and her dad was worried that she'd be 'turned lesbian'. It's easier for women in sport to come out as gay, because female sports are a more welcoming and inclusive environment.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Because being sporty, particular in team sports, is part of the stereotype of being gay for women. Basically a female footballer coming out as gay is like a man in the fashion industry doing likewise. I had a lesbian friend who played football and she said they had this new girl join who was about 15 and her dad was worried that she'd be 'turned lesbian'. It's easier for women in sport to come out as gay, because female sports are a more welcoming and inclusive environment.
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Is it still a teammate thing? I would have though that footballers in a group pretty much know the sexual orientations of everyone else and, generally speaking, wouldn't care, much like society as a whole doesn't care in the "mature" countries. So maybe it's a wider society issue, and it's more a fear of the abuse someone will get from the fringes of society if their minority sexual preferences are known?

Just putting it out there. Haven't given it a great deal of thought, as you can probably tell.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Because being sporty, particular in team sports, is part of the stereotype of being gay for women. Basically a female footballer coming out as gay is like a man in the fashion industry doing likewise. I had a lesbian friend who played football and she said they had this new girl join who was about 15 and her dad was worried that she'd be 'turned lesbian'. It's easier for women in sport to come out as gay, because female sports are a more welcoming and inclusive environment.
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I see “being sporty…stereotype” and a “because…” as it relates to women, but none of that addresses the REAL problem with men, which is?

I think it’s because men see physicality as sexuality, and such physicality Is on open display in a men’s dressing room. We see it even in regards to health clubs and swimming pool locker rooms.

It’s a little juvenile to believe that because someone else is gay they might “fancy” you or be staring at you in the dressing room “community.”

Indeed, one of the primary fears of prison for many people is that of being forced into homosexual acts against their will.

Men seem to have an innate fear of homosexuality, as if they’re susceptible to being the object of someone else’s desire…or is it that they might like it?! :-)

Men physical, women emotional???
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Did you not see the Chelsea rent boy chant thread the other week?
Actually you may not have seen it as the Mods decided to take it down given a good deal of inappropriate content it contained?
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Didn't even see it mate! Bloody hell I sound like Wenger and Jose. I must have logged on when it got swiped
 
Talk of a group of players in the Bundesliga planning to come out on May 17th, the last weekend of the season in Germany and also International Day Against Homophobia.

There's been reports like this in the past, that a player is planning to come forward, only for nothing to happen. Worth taking with a pinch of salt. But don't remember reports of an entire group getting ready.

metro.co.uk

Group of professional footballers 'plan to come out as gay' in days

The group are planning to announce just days before the final weekend of the season.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
 
youngbob said:
Talk of a group of players in the Bundesliga planning to come out on May 17th, the last weekend of the season in Germany and also International Day Against Homophobia.

There's been reports like this in the past, that a player is planning to come forward, only for nothing to happen. Worth taking with a pinch of salt. But don't remember reports of an entire group getting ready.

metro.co.uk

Group of professional footballers 'plan to come out as gay' in days

The group are planning to announce just days before the final weekend of the season.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
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The sooner it’s normalized, the better for everyone. I couldn’t imagine living in an open prison of bigotry in my chosen profession, and just because of the nonsensical insecurities of my teammates.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The sooner it’s normalized, the better for everyone. I couldn’t imagine living in an open prison of bigotry in my chosen profession, and just because of the nonsensical insecurities of my teammates.
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i work in an industry full of gay people as do you, however down on the ramp i have only ever met two openly gay lads out of all the people off the ramp, literally hundreds, probably thousands of lads, now upstairs checkin and passenger services, not to mention cabin crew i would say a good majority of the males are gay, some of them rummer than the ramp lads :) and you know what, nobody gives a fuck
 
Sir peace frog said:
i work in an industry full of gay people as do you, however down on the ramp i have only ever met two openly gay lads out of all the people off the ramp, literally hundreds, probably thousands of lads, now upstairs checkin and passenger services, not to mention cabin crew i would say a good majority of the males are gay, some of them rummer than the ramp lads :) and you know what, nobody gives a fuck
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They probably don’t have Neanderthal trolls and bots on social media that would perpetually say horrific things about them though.
 
The homophobia at footie games these days in my experience is non existent compared to even 10 years ago, definitely been a big step forward. I hope footie players can start to feel comfortable being themselves rather than hiding
 
CTID1988 said:
The homophobia at footie games these days in my experience is non existent compared to even 10 years ago, definitely been a big step forward. I hope footie players can start to feel comfortable being themselves rather than hiding
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You can’t even sing about gentlemen for hire in western London these days.
 
Sir peace frog said:
i work in an industry full of gay people as do you, however down on the ramp i have only ever met two openly gay lads out of all the people off the ramp, literally hundreds, probably thousands of lads, now upstairs checkin and passenger services, not to mention cabin crew i would say a good majority of the males are gay, some of them rummer than the ramp lads :) and you know what, nobody gives a fuck
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I've travelled a fair bit on Virgin Atlantic over the last few years and I think you are probably right. Fair bit of tutting and eye rolling from the older generation of passengers but most people didn't give a flying fuck (pun intended).

Saw our crew out on the piss in Vegas a couple of years back and they were "Avin' it large" as the kids would say.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I've travelled a fair bit on Virgin Atlantic over the last few years and I think you are probably right. Fair bit of tutting and eye rolling from the older generation of passengers but most people didn't give a flying fuck (pun intended).

Saw our crew out on the piss in Vegas a couple of years back and they were "Avin' it large" as the kids would say.
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the aviation industry in general like to party :), but as we work shifts our saturday night is usually midweek :)
 
Ric said:
Good on him. Hopefully it’ll encourage more players to feel confident to come out.
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I hope so, as well.

The more “come out”, the easier it will be for more to come out, until there is no need to come out anymore.
 
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