Unacceptable song

[cheddar404]

It's interesting that as certain terms (rightly) become unacceptable in wider society and filters down to the terraces - no more monkey chants, songs about Spurs heading off to certain parts of Germany for instance - the next natural step is wiping out any form of offence altogether. We had a similar thread a few weeks back in The Cellar about comedy having boundaries or not and I think the same applies here.

Football supporting is intrinsically tribal in its nature, so how do you go about getting to/at your enemy when you play them? Or is it that simply singing songs about your own team only should suffice? Or further still is it that a football crowd needs to become more like a rugby crowd or worse still, sterile like the theatre?

I hate the fact we sing about the swamp donkeys when we're not playing them, but when we do play them I expect we should give it them with both barrels. Thankfully, the Munich stuff is definitely on the wane with what seems (to me at least) a vocal minority, rather than the majority of City fans, indulging from time to time. How do you do give it them respectfully though whilst causing maximum discomfort?

Unemployment is a terrible thing for anyone to have to go through. It has such a detrimental effect to the individual and on relationships, families and so on. It is absolutely no laughing matter and over 2 million people are currently classed as "unemployed" according to official figures and more than likely the figure is actually much higher given the nuances involved in how it is calculated. So, does that mean no more "get to work you lazy twats!" when we play the red or blue dippers? In fact, no more calling them the dippers surely as theft is equally no laughing matter?

I've no idea what the answer is or even if I am making any sense! I know racism, homophobia etc are all appalling and I agree the "touches boys" song" is distasteful. It is puerile and certainly not one I'd sing. However (genuine request, not meant to be antagonistic) I'd love to have some examples of songs we could use that demonstrates respect but gets at the opposition and who we could use them against.

It totally makes sense and it is interesting to think about. At one end of the spectrum you have kicking the shit out of opposing fans while at the other end is sitting in silence gently applauding. Most of us have a line somewhere. For me, Munich songs and racism etc are over that line. Jelly and ice cream when Fergie dies and Fergie touches boys are that ridiculous that I don't take them seriously enough to be offended by them. They're in bad taste of course but it's a football match, not church. A bit of purile humour isn't the end of the world.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

What is the paedo song?

To the tune: Cum on Feel the Noize

Fergie touches boys,
So does David Moyes,
They're paedophiles,
They're paedophiles.

is that it?

why are people so sensitive these days ffs

 

[Sigh]

Title of a Cure single?

 

[East Manchester]

We all know its childish ,and not funny anymore,but you can't have it both ways,YaYa Toure ( and Evra I suppose) complaint about Racism yet their own supporters are willing ( a minority) to chant a stupid song re an air crash or a grave sexual offender,seems a little bit hypocritical for me

 

[Lancet Fluke]

I am offended and so is my dog.

 

[cavendishblue]

Let's be honest, chanting of any description has been on the wane in the PL for years. Singing your own clubs anthems are great and boosts the atmosphere but I've never understood why a small minority don't feel they've enjoyed themselves unless they've hurled abuse and sung tasteless chants at the opposition for 90 minutes.

The despicable Munich chants are thankfully dying out, as are racist and homophobic chants. Anyone who says it's part of football's tradition might be right but it's a tradition that I won't be sad to see the back off. No other sport suffered from it.

 

[East Manchester]

Let's be honest, chanting of any description has been on the wane in the PL for years. Singing your own clubs anthems are great and boosts the atmosphere but I've never understood why a small minority don't feel they've enjoyed themselves unless they've hurled abuse and sung tasteless chants at the opposition for 90 minutes.

The despicable Munich chants are thankfully dying out, as are racist and homophobic chants. Anyone who says it's part of football's tradition might be right but it's a tradition that I won't be sad to see the back off. No other sport suffered from it.

Guess that would be funny at Wimbledon for instance
The centre court singing ,led by sir cliff!

With a cheeky smile,
Nadals a f******g Peodophile.

 

[jma]

I always love the "I've got massive bollocks, therefore you can't offend me, cos I've got massive bollocks" undercurrent to threads like this when there is a stream of posters lining up to show their credentials as unshockable and unable to be offended.

But I've got a sneaking suspicion (based on no research whatsoever) that those who revel in songs like this and claim to be from the "why do people get offended" camp are actually, outside of football, often the sort of people who are most likely to be in the "what are you saying about me?", screaming blue murder, easily taking umbrage if they feel even the smallest slight has been made against them camp. A bit Jeremy Kyle like.

I'd also take a bet that those who love this little song are often the sort who are most vocal about their "hate" for "paedos" and, if not banging on police vans outside court types, then certainly quite vocal about how seriously they take the issue and any mention of it outside of football. After all, it is the obsession number one of certain parts of society these days.

Double standards abound, I bet.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Not necessarily. Is it not reasonable to say that songs that can be categorized as tasteless/vulgar are not to your liking? I like to think that City fans have more class than to descend to paedophile/Munich chants etc.

God help you lot in the 70's. You wouldn't have lasted ten seconds.

I'm outraged.

The point is we are NOT in the 70s any more, these days we know that racism, homophobia etc are not acceptable. I find that song offensive and tasteless but accept that there are some people around who find it amusing for some inexplicable reason. Probably the same people who feel that singing about the deaths of talented footballers, plus one of our own, Frank Swift, is amusing.

I suppose non of you sang the song about Stevie Coppell in the 90's onwards then.

Over reaction to football chanting which is NOT serious.<br /><br />-- Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:31 pm --<br /><br />

I always love the "I've got massive bollocks, therefore you can't offend me, cos I've got massive bollocks" undercurrent to threads like this when there is a stream of posters lining up to show their credentials as unshockable and unable to be offended.

But I've got a sneaking suspicion (based on no research whatsoever) that those who revel in songs like this and claim to be from the "why do people get offended" camp are actually, outside of football, often the sort of people who are most likely to be in the "what are you saying about me?", screaming blue murder, easily taking umbrage if they feel even the smallest slight has been made against them camp. A bit Jeremy Kyle like.

I'd also take a bet that those who love this little song are often the sort who are most vocal about their "hate" for "paedos" and, if not banging on police vans outside court types, then certainly quite vocal about how seriously they take the issue and any mention of it outside of football. After all, it is the obsession number one of certain parts of society these days.

Double standards abound, I bet.

In a court that would be blasted as supposition.

 

[jma]

God help you lot in the 70's. You wouldn't have lasted ten seconds.

I'm outraged.

The point is we are NOT in the 70s any more, these days we know that racism, homophobia etc are not acceptable. I find that song offensive and tasteless but accept that there are some people around who find it amusing for some inexplicable reason. Probably the same people who feel that singing about the deaths of talented footballers, plus one of our own, Frank Swift, is amusing.

I suppose non of you sang the song about Stevie Coppell in the 90's onwards then.

Over reaction to football chanting which is NOT serious.

-- Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:31 pm --

I always love the "I've got massive bollocks, therefore you can't offend me, cos I've got massive bollocks" undercurrent to threads like this when there is a stream of posters lining up to show their credentials as unshockable and unable to be offended.

But I've got a sneaking suspicion (based on no research whatsoever) that those who revel in songs like this and claim to be from the "why do people get offended" camp are actually, outside of football, often the sort of people who are most likely to be in the "what are you saying about me?", screaming blue murder, easily taking umbrage if they feel even the smallest slight has been made against them camp. A bit Jeremy Kyle like.

I'd also take a bet that those who love this little song are often the sort who are most vocal about their "hate" for "paedos" and, if not banging on police vans outside court types, then certainly quite vocal about how seriously they take the issue and any mention of it outside of football. After all, it is the obsession number one of certain parts of society these days.

Double standards abound, I bet.

In a court that would be blasted as supposition.

Definitely. But I bet you definitely recognise what I'm talking about. Even if you might not wish to admit it.