United (A) | Post Match Thread

Ffs was ranting to my lad pep had to bring on kalvin or gundog with 15mins to go and 1 up. Take silva or mahrez off make more solid in middle which inevitably is where they ended up stitching us up line breaking passes right thru the fukin middle!
 
you lose the plot ? no amount of training and talking in the week about not losing your cool can change the fact the worst bit of cheating ever simple
you lose the plot ? no amount of training and talking in the week about not losing your cool can change the fact the worst bit of cheating ever simple
Yes the goal was dodgy, but I think people are papering over the cracks blaming VAR and the officials, we had 1 shot on target, our play is slow and laboured, we are to predictable now for teams, we look miles off the pace
 
No, you're wrong.

It's not as if they had a stalwart middle as the game played around it anyway. We had no passing lanes through the centre with one option. I don't know why you refuse to see that. De Bruyne was constantly on the wings in the second half, anyway and he was rarely found through the middle in the first half. So, not "suicide" at all.

Having Gundogan would have allowed more vision to the pass through the lines or driving at them. Counterattacking happened with Bernardo in his position today, so why not push him forward to put them on the back foot?

And, since Alvárez pretty much is used to playing on the wing for the national side (and previous clubs) and supporting the striker, it becomes what Foden, Grealish and Mahrez does.

It makes me wonder why you thought having the team as was, was a positive move?

It struck me as cautious and, maybe, overly so for control when the balance could have been that AND with an attacking edge with players not out of form.
One of the very terrible decisions this season is playing Bernardo on the right whilst having KDB and Gundo in the middle. It’s too easy to cut us open with 1 or 2 passes when we pay like that. It’s a no-no against a very capable counterattacking team. I don’t know how you can’t see this. It’s not like Gundo has been pulling trees.

We lost this match alright but I thought many of the players did well. Cancelo did very well. We tired out and couldn’t manage the game against a very energetic counter attacking team - we didn’t loose because we lacked passing outlets. Our passing was very good then okay when we became leggy towards the end of the match.

De Bruyne stayed wide in the second half sometimes just like you could find him in the center sometimes because he’s allowed to roam. It’s quite different from playing there as his position. We can try that against Leeds not here. Maybe the game could have been over at the end of the first half.

Most modern strikers have times when they drift wide but if you are a wide man, the instructions are different. It’s not the same. Again this is not the match to try experiments.
 
Back to basics for me... I think we should drop Haaland for a few, go back to false 9.
Haaland is a fantastic player, but totally understand why Pep wanted Kane. He was more suited to our play. We should have paid the money. We were certainly more set on the eye with the false ‘9‘. Not convinced Pep is getting the players he wants.
 
Ederson was only concentrating on Rashford, is that enough impact?
It was offside but not for this reason. The rules can’t allow for individual players thought processes in the moment, that comes down to game management.

Shit decision. Shit performance.
 
thought process.....he dummies and therefore makes eddy look at him....its not just the defenders.
I'm not sure a dummy would count, attempting to play the ball would. That should take quite a while to decide on VAR so I've no idea how they decided they didn't need to look at it...
 
thought process.....he dummies and therefore makes eddy look at him....its not just the defenders. eddy didnt know who was going to shoot.
I'm drawn on it tbh, if the tables were turned and we'd scored it we'd all be screaming it should stand.
 
Yeah, I get that, but with the constant chatter of new challenges and his absolute desire to not play the ball forward....and to think against Crystal Palace he turned the game by attacking attacking attacking..what has happened?!

While team looks shot of confidence, KDB is the only one daring to try a positive pass and it’s not going for him either st the moment
I can handle a poor season and especially if it’s only Arsenal that will win it if not us but I’m worried it drags on into next season and further

Maybe we do need a complete refresh of the squad, get a bunch of new players in who will relish working with Pep, hang on his every word and work their bollocks off trying to impress
I’d be happy to give him 4/5 years moulding academy lads into a perfect Pep machine :)
 
Surely he is interfering with how Ederson positions himself??

Also Rashford is stood between Akanji and the ball the whole time. If Rashford isn't there City clear it.
This is what I've been saying. You can even take the centre half's out of the equation and whether you believe Rashford is 'shielding' the ball or not his presence has brought Ederson out of his goal (anticipating if he takes it in his stride he's through on goal). I went for a piss as was convinced the offside would stand.
Atwell gave us fuck all all game and seemed very keen to have a word with his assistant and desperate for it to stand. That rat Fernandes has done his job chirping away like usual!
Would like to see that foul and potential pen in the first half again too. There seemed to be loads of contact. Did VAR not even look at that one?
VAR's completely ruined two weekends on the trot now. Bin dippers against Wolves and now this.
 

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