United and Liverpool EFL project - proposal rejected

[Rammyblues]

Inequality has always been apart of football, I'd be confident if you went through the top 5 leagues in Europe you will find 75% of the teams have been in the top division for 80 of the last 100 years. Is it inequality that has Blackburn in the championship or is it just the natural order? Bolton, Wigan, Norwich, Burnley, teams like this are never meant to be mainstays in the top division, their population and support base simply doesn't have the means or support to compete against bigger clubs. Its normal for them to have good sides occasionally that get promoted and eventually relegated again. Just like its normal bad decision making will have big clubs like Sheffield Wednesday and yourselves previously in the lower leagues.

The issue is relegation has meant a threat to existence too many times, Burnley and Norwich are well managed but for everyone of those you have a Wigan, Bolton, Portsmouth or Sunderland. FFP hasn't worked and it needs replacing with regulation that protects clubs longterm. As I said it shouldn't be Liverpool deciding the futures of Plymouth or Exeter, it should be the FA because the clubs have proved consistently they can't look after themselves.

Leicester fans say hi.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I believe the FA are in charge of the rules re when a club collapses such as Bury did recently. Nothing to stop the fans setting up Bury again but they have to start at the bottom. Wouldn't the easiest option be that if clubs go under and then re appear they start from where they went under given the special circumstances of this pandemic. Just a thought off the top of my head.

Fans already have set up a phoenix club for Bury, although somethings being announced today about the original Bury club.

 

[cleavers]

This reminds me of the story of the con-man who "sold" Tower Bridge to some gullible Americans. Only here we have Americans trying to sell our own game back to us.

They're more likely just looking to take more money out, they have nothing to "sell".

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I know City have been privy to this whole shit show. I'd like to think better of us, but the fact we gave a no comment yesterday suggests otherwise.

Would have been the perfect public moment to show we are not like them.

The club barely said anything to media outlets slandering us, so its no surprise we have remained hush hush.

From what sky sports have said us, Spuds, Arsenal and Chelsea all are on the fence with what was proposed.

 

[paulchapo]

This whole idea becomes more ludicrous the more that leaks out if this is correct.



I'm suspicions that the whole thing is a smokescreen to set up.a European superleague. Put forward a set of proposals so propostrous that they are rejected. The big six then quit the league and along with their European equivalent form the European league, saying we were left with no alternative..

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Knowing how much City detest Liverpool and Parry in particular, I strongly suspect we could even behind the leak of this?

We are obviously wanting a bigger share of the pot, but if we can get that reform and also take down hostile parties, all the better.

I knew Parry was close to Henry but to think they have been in discussions about this since 2017, while Parry was still at UEFA and well before he moved to the EFL. I can't believe City would sign up to anything involving these two snakes. As far as that sinking ship at United are concerned they are just looking for a life raft. I can't think of a single reason why we would want to throw them one.

 

[Rammyblues]

Fans already have set up a phoenix club for Bury, although somethings being announced today about the original Bury club.

So sad they went under and I am glad they have risen again. My dad took me to see them as a lad over 55 years ago and have nearly always had a soft spot for them. Maybe if these proposals are pushed through with City's support might have to go back to my roots.

 

[Centurions]

This will never happen in a million years, but wouldn't it be fun if City co-wrote and announced a plan which managed to help out the EFL, give PL clubs a little reward and didn't try to destroy the entire future of the sport?

Put in some conditions which allow owners to invest sensibly and grow their sides, put in some safeguards against having huge leveraged debts. Propose some sort of compromise on youth development that works better than loans but isn't B teams. Get the support of clubs up and down the pyramid.

Knowing Soriano though any plan out of City would probably be almost as bad as Liverpool and Uniteds. Which is his job, I suppose.

Based on what exactly? His B team suggestion? You can't honestly believe the two are in anyway comparable.

 

[Centurions]

I knew Parry was close to Henry but to think they have been in discussions about this since 2017, while Parry was still at UEFA and well before he moved to the EFL. I can't believe City would sign up to anything involving these two snakes. As far as that sinking ship at United are concerned they are just looking for a life raft. I can't think of a single reason why we would want to throw them one.

That's the problem though is it not, we might (should) be in full agreement with the many good things thrown into the mix but that doesn't mean we are in agreement over the power grab. I suspect there's going to be a lot more revisions of this leaked over the next few weeks/months. Of course they do need to help out the EFL now, not even further down the line.

 

[Gumzy97]

This is why the top 6 are pushing for it for an executive to say that. when Leicester winning was amazing for the game i cant beleive it.