United and Liverpool EFL project - proposal rejected

Fuck Liverpool, and fuck United. A shameless power grab to try and weight the dice even more in their favour. And fuck City if they go along with this.
Disgusting, but please do not throw City under the bus for what these despicable fucks have tried to push through. As the narrative goes, it’s the two red clubs who are trying it on:

Manchester United and Liverpool are the driving force behind the biggest changes to English football in a generation and an extraordinary overhaul of the Premier League, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

The two clubs have worked together on a radical set of proposals – called “Project Big Picture” - that will reshape the finances of the game. The Premier League, the most lucrative sports league in the world, would see a reduction to 18 teams, and controlling power in the hands of the biggest clubs.
 
Fuck Liverpool, and fuck United. A shameless power grab to try and weight the dice even more in their favour. And fuck City if they go along with this.

Spot on. We can't trust them anyway, both of these wankers along with Arsenal have been instrumental.in.trying to stop our progress since the takeover. What they'll do is what is being mooted, so called history clubs will have the main say and final vote on everything and you can bet your life we won't be one of them. Job done in the premier league. European football will follow suit. Job done in Europe, they will emasculate us to.also rans again.
 
Would this be anything to do with American owners -
It will be no relegation and The league will own the players and we will be having an annual draft next.
 
While we all want City to win, I think most of us on here love the concepts of the game itself and fair play. If we take a step back from our loyalties to club and concepts, the reality is that football - certainly at the elite level(s) - is a business selling a product that just happens to be matches.

The Premier League and the EFL, etc, are private entities that can set their own rules. So I think that even if these proposals aren't passed "as is" in the short-term, we're on an inexorable slope towards the model that the very biggest clubs (including us) want. And that model is probably, as most have suggested, a US-style format that protects status and revenue for the incumbents.

Parry, while undoubtedly being what many people have already labelled him, is certainly shrewd. This whole PR game will have been planned meticulously. A possible strategy will be that they can walk back from having 30-odd full-on changes to 15 (or whatever) and many people will celebrate a Pyrrhic victory.

Personally, and it make me really sad, I think the genie's out and counting its money. I think the only way to halt (delay?) the inevitable move towards US-style "competition" would be some form of mass protest - an organised cancellation of TV subscriptions and a boycott of games when fans are allowed to return.

But I don't think either of those things will happen because the only people who might be moved to do that are loyal fans (tourists won't be arsed). And that very loyalty will prevent us from doing so: how many of us would pass up the chance to watch (in person or on TV) us win at Anfield for the first time in a generation or bag the FA Cup again?

I feel gloomy. Here's a "fruity" song to suit my mood.

 
wonder who leaked this,was it a club or persons concerned with what could happen or was it deliberately leaked by the red scum to weigh up early reaction to the proposal’s ..
 
wonder who leaked this,was it a club or persons concerned with what could happen or was it deliberately leaked by the red scum to weigh up early reaction to the proposal’s ..
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't Parry - the original report featured extensive quotes with very little critical analysis. Didn't even mention (I think) his links to Liverpool, although none of the other outlets that I've read follow-ups on, have gone down that road either.
 
You've hit the nail on the head there, this is nothing other than a takeover of our national game by a bunch of dangerous idiots who sponsor Trump and the racist actions of the US government.
The greedy American owners have been buying up clubs over many years without the media not even questioning their intentions. They should have seen their motivations as early as the manure takeover and how they financed the deal. They will destroy English football. The Premier League will have just realised what they have allowed to happen on their watch!
 
While we all want City to win, I think most of us on here love the concepts of the game itself and fair play. If we take a step back from our loyalties to club and concepts, the reality is that football - certainly at the elite level(s) - is a business selling a product that just happens to be matches.

The Premier League and the EFL, etc, are private entities that can set their own rules. So I think that even if these proposals aren't passed "as is" in the short-term, we're on an inexorable slope towards the model that the very biggest clubs (including us) want. And that model is probably, as most have suggested, a US-style format that protects status and revenue for the incumbents.

Parry, while undoubtedly being what many people have already labelled him, is certainly shrewd. This whole PR game will have been planned meticulously. A possible strategy will be that they can walk back from having 30-odd full-on changes to 15 (or whatever) and many people will celebrate a Pyrrhic victory.

Personally, and it make me really sad, I think the genie's out and counting its money. I think the only way to halt (delay?) the inevitable move towards US-style "competition" would be some form of mass protest - an organised cancellation of TV subscriptions and a boycott of games when fans are allowed to return.

But I don't think either of those things will happen because the only people who might be moved to do that are loyal fans (tourists won't be arsed). And that very loyalty will prevent us from doing so: how many of us would pass up the chance to watch (in person or on TV) us win at Anfield for the first time in a generation or bag the FA Cup again?

I feel gloomy. Here's a "fruity" song to suit my mood.


Not sure 2003 was a generation ago, mate.
 

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